Yoeleo R11 new project
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Looking to build a new disc bike under 7.5kg.
Already have:
Frame + handlebar + seatpost
Old sram red etap rim brake version
Pinarello MOST saddle
LOOK pedals
Looking for:
Wheels, bb, rotors and cable pull calipers.
Wheels will likely be winspace hyper wheels
The other items I have no idea what to get. Any recommendations?
Already have:
Frame + handlebar + seatpost
Old sram red etap rim brake version
Pinarello MOST saddle
LOOK pedals
Looking for:
Wheels, bb, rotors and cable pull calipers.
Wheels will likely be winspace hyper wheels
The other items I have no idea what to get. Any recommendations?
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+1 to Juin Tech GT-F for brakes. That being said....I'm not really sure how well any cable actuated brake would do in a fully integrated/internal frame. You (ideally) should use compressionless brake housing, which might be pretty hard to run through the handlebar/stem/headtube area. Hopefully someone else with direct experience can chime in.
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It works just fine. You just have to be careful with cable length.
TRP Spyres are fully mechanical calipers. Juin Tech is a hybrid mechanical and hydraulic caliper. The cable pulls an actuating arm that pushes a hydraulic piston. Juin Tech GT-F is also a quad piston brake which, in addition to the hydraulics, makes it a more powerful brake than Spyres.
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Another +1 on the Juin Tech GT-F's callipers: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000923393388.html?
Rotors I would recommend the Galfer centre lock options: https://galfer.eu/bike/products/brake-d ... -system&s=
If you're looking for deep section, light weight wheels I would recommend FarSports Gravel 50mm rims on Carbon-Ti hubs: https://www.wheelsfar.com/gravel-wheels ... p0097.html
Rotors I would recommend the Galfer centre lock options: https://galfer.eu/bike/products/brake-d ... -system&s=
If you're looking for deep section, light weight wheels I would recommend FarSports Gravel 50mm rims on Carbon-Ti hubs: https://www.wheelsfar.com/gravel-wheels ... p0097.html
I would just use an inexpensive standard pressfit SRAM GXP BB or a heavier thread fit one from Wheels Manufacturing or Token if you're worried about creaking. Ceramic bearings are a waste of money IMO.
The potential flaw in your plan is the brake cable routing as the bends may be too tight if it's fully integrated.
The potential flaw in your plan is the brake cable routing as the bends may be too tight if it's fully integrated.
I thought about building a disc bike with Juin Tech GTs and eTap rim group, but finding a frameset that had straight cable runs for the Juin Techs was not as easy as I thought and I ended up building a TCR SL rim bike @ 6.5kg instead. If you already have the fully integrated frameset then I think Rival is the way to go even at 8.5kg as the cable brakes may not work well at all. You could probably save a fair bit of weight just using the eTap crank with Praxis 12 speed rings over the Rival AXS one.
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I've posted this a few times but again, juin brakes work perfectly with internal routed cables and rim brakes shifters.bobones wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:34 amI thought about building a disc bike with Juin Tech GTs and eTap rim group, but finding a frameset that had straight cable runs for the Juin Techs was not as easy as I thought and I ended up building a TCR SL rim bike @ 6.5kg instead. If you already have the fully integrated frameset then I think Rival is the way to go even at 8.5kg as the cable brakes may not work well at all. You could probably save a fair bit of weight just using the eTap crank with Praxis 12 speed rings over the Rival AXS one.
They may be a little more sensitive to cable length but it's only when you try and shove a few extra inches of cable into the frame without trimming them correctly.
So such speculation on this subject from people who haven't actually tried it.
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Steve Curtis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:41 amI've posted this a few times but again, juin brakes work perfectly with internal routed cables and rim brakes shifters.bobones wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:34 amI thought about building a disc bike with Juin Tech GTs and eTap rim group, but finding a frameset that had straight cable runs for the Juin Techs was not as easy as I thought and I ended up building a TCR SL rim bike @ 6.5kg instead. If you already have the fully integrated frameset then I think Rival is the way to go even at 8.5kg as the cable brakes may not work well at all. You could probably save a fair bit of weight just using the eTap crank with Praxis 12 speed rings over the Rival AXS one.
They may be a little more sensitive to cable length but it's only when you try and shove a few extra inches of cable into the frame without trimming them correctly.
So such speculation on this subject from people who haven't actually tried it.
I should add, obviously I haven't tried every frame combination but the three I have built here just fine.
That's fair enough. I haven't tried the Juin Tech's at all, but I was steered away from using them on integrated cable bikes on this post by an experienced user. Even the non-integrated Factor O2 was discouraged due to a kink in the routing where the cable enters the downtube.
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I mean, I think tight cable bends are always a legitimate concern. I was hoping someone with actual experience would offer their input, so thank you.Steve Curtis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:41 amSo such speculation on this subject from people who haven't actually tried it.