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Ronin416
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by Ronin416 on Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:22 am
Mocs123 wrote:The HJC Furion is interesting it claims to be aero and is reportedly light - I've never heard of the brand before, I don't think they sell them in the US.
How heavy is yours @usr?
Not without CSCP certification. It could always be ordered from overseas.
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Zero7
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by Zero7 on Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:48 am
My MET Trenta 3K Carbon size medium comes in at 219 grams and is one of the best looking helmets I've ever seen
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Alex222
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by Alex222 on Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:46 am
Zero7 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:48 am
My MET Trenta 3K Carbon comes in at 219 grams and is one of the best looking helmets I've ever seen
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Big fan of the MET Trenta, although I have the MIPS version which adds an extra 30g unfortunately
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by Juanmoretime on Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:55 am
I'm the third vote for the POC VentralLite. Fits well and the most important thing is it protectas your head well.It is very aero and that comes second in my book. Having had a serious head injury that has effected my brain for life so good protection comes before aeroness. I was hit by a car in 2017 and the woman that went thru the stop sign without stopping called 911 and waited. The paramedics found me unconcious on the pavement hemmoraging in three places in my brain. The plus is the POC is both aero and offers good protection.. :thumbup:
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by usr on Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:42 pm
Mocs123 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:34 am
The HJC Furion is interesting it claims to be aero and is reportedly light - I've never heard of the brand before, I don't think they sell them in the US.
How heavy is yours @usr?
Mine comes in at 244, with 225 claimed for that size. No idea how much of that difference is salt deposits from dried sweat. The bloodstained remains of my Uvex Boss Race are 258g and they keep making slightly updated versions of that ancient thing, likely because all their newer models are heavier.
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by Noctiluxx on Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:53 pm
I just ordered a pair of medium size Kask Valegro white and POC Ventral Lite black from Lordgun in Euro specs. I'll weight them and post up the number with pics as soon as they arrive.
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by kode54 on Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:51 pm
Noctiluxx wrote:I just ordered a pair of medium size Kask Valegro white and POC Ventral Lite black from Lordgun in Euro specs. I'll weight them and post up the number with pics as soon as they arrive.
The POC Euro version should be very light. I have the US version and was disappointed with the weight.
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Noctiluxx
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by Noctiluxx on Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:56 pm
kode54 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:51 pm
Noctiluxx wrote:I just ordered a pair of medium size Kask Valegro white and POC Ventral Lite black from Lordgun in Euro specs. I'll weight them and post up the number with pics as soon as they arrive.
The POC Euro version should be very light. I have the US version and was disappointed with the weight.
According to specs the Euro version of the POC Ventral Lite is 194 grams while the Valegro comes in at 200 grams. Both in size medium.
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by Mocs123 on Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:03 pm
Are the Euro helmet safety standards less stringent than in the USA? That's the only reason I can think of why they would be lighter. I've always felt like our safety standards are pretty minimalistic and somthing Europe generally does better than we do.
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by CustomMetal on Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:19 pm
Zero7 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:13 pm
Knightyboy27 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:07 pm
POC Ventral Lite is sub 200g
POC website says they are S: 220g M: 240g L: 270g
Says sub 200g on the UK website
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by usr on Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:04 pm
Mocs123 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:03 pm
Are the Euro helmet safety standards less stringent than in the USA? That's the only reason I can think of why they would be lighter. I've always felt like our safety standards are pretty minimalistic and somthing Europe generally does better than we do.
A quick glance at helmets.org/stdcomp.html suggests that they are quite similar. US certification tests seem to require higher impact speeds than their European counterparts, but they tolerate higher peak deceleration. I wouldn't be surprised if it was possible to design a helmet that passes one but fails the other for both sides and given the choice between those two we'd have a hard time deciding which one we would trust more. There's so much uncertainty in this field. Even if risk reduction properties were perfectly known (we are very far from knowing them in detail, there is extremely little science beyond rough assessments of general helpfulness) there would still be disagreement about weighing: if helmet A would prevent five more deaths than helmet B, but at the cost of preventing twenty less cases of survivable but heavy permanent damage that B would render completely harmless, would we really consider A to be the better helmet than B? Chances are you'd find takers for both sides. But we are not even close to having the data a discussion like that could be started from. The truth is that bike helmets are a compromise and motorcycle helmets used for cycling would be 100 effective at preventing injury or death from crashes because people would rather stay at home than ride.