Dogma F Frame Weights

[ryanw]

Just posting up to see if anyone has the frame yet and if they've stripped it bare to weigh?

I have just received this 46.5 frame and pretty shocked with its weight, in a bad way... 911g!

For reference, a Pinarello 46.5 is essentially a 49cm in normal bike sizing (tiny bit bigger).

Here are all the S-Works SL7s in the same size I've built:

766g - 49cm - Dove Grey
729g - 49cm - Trinity Team Bike
721g - 49cm - Carbon / Chameleon Silver Green Colour Run
719g - 49cm - Carbon / Chameleon Silver Green Colour Run

Even a 58cm SL7 in Dusty Blue Pearl / Cast Blue Metallic is only a few grams heavier at 923g.

Dogma F fork uncut is 432g vs 371g of SL7.

Dogma F seatpost is 191g vs 181g of SL7.

So the Dogma F frame is giving away 190g, fork 60g, and 10g in the seatpost, giving it a total system weight of circa 260g over its rival, the SL7 of same-ish size.

It'll be interseting to see how light I can build this (DA Di2, Berk, Most carbon cockpit), but doubt it'll be much under 7kg.

It would be helpful if you could post completely bare frame weights here

[RDY]

That steerer tube is a real mess ...

[Nickldn]

The S-Works SL7 is clearly exceptionally light for an aero type frame, but then we already knew that!

The Dogma F is not a competitor in terms of weight, but I think Dogma buyers are generally less concerned with bike weight and more with 'ride feel'. I guess Pinarello design frames to please their target audience.

[aeroisnteverything]

Hard to see this as a surprise. Even eyeballing this, there is a lot more carbon on the frame - pretty much all the shapes are wider.

[robbosmans]

Claimed weight is 865g for an unpainted frame, so its not to far off

[PSM]

You can cut 100gr from that steerer. Easily!

[CustomMetal]

And I love the way Fausto pinerello is adement that he doesn't want any weight off the frame as that is the optimum weight

[BigBoyND]

What is the weight SL7 vs F including hardware, since that is where Pinarello claimed to be making savings.

[TobinHatesYou]

I bet that semi-gloss silver paint is pretty hefty.

[ome rodriguez]

I had an F10 before and you won't feel the weight underneath you. I can say it has the same ride as the SL7 which is my fave. I'm getting an F for a second bike even if its heavy

[BigBoyND]

I had an F10 before and you won't feel the weight underneath you. I can say it has the same ride as the SL7 which is my fave. I'm getting an F for a second bike even if its heavy

You already have two bikes in your sig. Are you getting rid of one of them?

Which color? I wonder whether BoB is significantly lighter or not.

[uncle-gee]

Ouff heavy but certainly eye pleasing!

Would you mind precisely measuring Center of BB to Rail clamps when seatpost at highest (max) position?

Thanks

[robbosmans]

I mean their is a reason Ineos have their frames painted by the F1 paint show, with paint that weighs nothing.

I feel like comparing it to a venge is a fairer comparison.

[mgrl]

I mean their is a reason Ineos have their frames painted by the F1 paint show, with paint that weighs nothing.

I feel like comparing it to a venge is a fairer comparison.

The Dogma is supposed to be an all round bike, like the SL7 - it's a fair comparison.

[Chaunch]

Pinarello website claims that a 53cm (Campy or Sram, disc, dt swiss 50mm, no pedals/bottle cages) will weight 6.9kg. Should be pretty easy (except for the $) to get a couple hunderd grams off that. Add back pedals should be right at 7kg. Or what am I missing? Believing the website???