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edchristoph
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by edchristoph

TobinHatesYou wrote:
Mon Nov 01, 2021 9:49 pm
Cervelo doesn't sound Italian at all to me. It sounds French.
It's actually both, a mixture of the Italian word cervello (= brain) and French vélo (= bike). A Brainbike :mrgreen:

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TobinHatesYou wrote:
Mon Nov 01, 2021 9:49 pm
Cervelo doesn't sound Italian at all to me. It sounds French.

GT was probably talking about Fezzari (legit,) Stradalli (junk,) or Scattante (defunct Performance Bikes house brand.)

Other confusing names would be Massi vs Masi. One being a legit Spanish brand and the other being a shell of an Italian brand name.
Fezzari is legit? As in Italian? I thought they are a US brand with cheap bikes. Their road bike is $2.9k at Ultegra level so I thought it was a cheap open mold brand or something of that sort.

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BigBoyND wrote:
Tue Nov 02, 2021 12:54 am
TobinHatesYou wrote:
Mon Nov 01, 2021 9:49 pm
Cervelo doesn't sound Italian at all to me. It sounds French.

GT was probably talking about Fezzari (legit,) Stradalli (junk,) or Scattante (defunct Performance Bikes house brand.)

Other confusing names would be Massi vs Masi. One being a legit Spanish brand and the other being a shell of an Italian brand name.
Fezzari is legit? As in Italian? I thought they are a US brand with cheap bikes. Their road bike is $2.9k at Ultegra level so I thought it was a cheap open mold brand or something of that sort.

Fezzari is legit as in they don’t make junk. They are American and always have been.

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by tomato

I see a lot of bikes from a brand called Fragile - are they Italian?

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by Berzin1

mriddle wrote:
Mon Nov 01, 2021 4:38 pm
Take a look at Casati, in Monza.
Casati used to make some of the nicest looking aluminum frames out there, but that was quite a number of years ago. R and A bike shop in New York City used to carry them.

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by bjarnetv

If you want a completely custom Italian Carbon bike, you can always order one from Daccordi.
https://www.daccordicycles.com/road-bikes/

It might not be as High tech as a Look frame, but the bikes will have custom geometry based on your measurements, and a custom paintjob if you pay for it.
The frames are also hand made in italy, not in asia.

The biggest problem would be choosing which historic paintjob you want on the frame - some of them are pretty wild, and would really stand out in todays sea of bland frames ;)

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Personally i currently ride a modern Gios Aerolite (in additon to a bunch of old alloy and steel Daccordi's), and i think its great, even though its a Taiwanese frame.
Super stiff and fun to ride, with a nice historic looking paintjob.

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by F10

bjarnetv wrote:
Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:08 am
If you want a completely custom Italian Carbon bike, you can always order one from Daccordi.
https://www.daccordicycles.com/road-bikes/

It might not be as High tech as a Look frame, but the bikes will have custom geometry based on your measurements, and a custom paintjob if you pay for it.
The frames are also hand made in italy, not in asia.

The biggest problem would be choosing which historic paintjob you want on the frame - some of them are pretty wild, and would really stand out in todays sea of bland frames ;)

Image


Personally i currently ride a modern Gios Aerolite (in additon to a bunch of old alloy and steel Daccordi's), and i think its great, even though its a Taiwanese frame.
Super stiff and fun to ride, with a nice historic looking paintjob.
I have a early 90's Daccordi tellaio turbo with SLX tubing. Paint job is absolutely beautiful - it's too small for me to comfortably ride but I can't bear to part with it!

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by bjarnetv

The 90s was the best era for Daccordi - i've got several SLX frames with the Team Galli paintjob, and 3 different late 90s Megatube alloy frames.

The old alloy frames are seriously good though - i even sold my old CAAD12 ultegra because they were faster, more fun to ride and had better finish :D

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That last one looks fantastic

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Here is my Basso Diamante SV

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tomato wrote:
Tue Nov 02, 2021 3:19 am
I see a lot of bikes from a brand called Fragile - are they Italian?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR29zxrY2LM
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by ALS

Interesting thread as I've been looking myself, my LBS sells Officine Mattio https://www.officinemattio.com/en/. I'll be heading down there to see what they think but they look very nice

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ms6073 wrote:
Tue Nov 02, 2021 4:18 pm
tomato wrote:
Tue Nov 02, 2021 3:19 am
I see a lot of bikes from a brand called Fragile - are they Italian?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR29zxrY2LM
Very good.

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