Tyre pressure road bike

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Weber
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by Weber

Hello there,

I always used 100 psi on my wheels, when I used 23mm and 25mm as wel.

But I read on the internet that when using 25mm tires one should lower it and even when the rim is wider like 21mm inner I could lower it even more being someone like me weighing 72 kilos it could reach use 70psi.

Do you guys ride lowering the PSIs on your road bikes that much?

Is there any note of how much they use for example the worldtour?

For example this is the psi chart from LB https://www.lightbicycle.com/support/us ... &content=4

its insane 75psi.

Could you share your experience with me?
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by DaveS

Use the pressure calculator at zipp.com. Works for me.

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by Hexsense

My data point: 64kg rider using
25c tire on 23mm internal width rim on the front,
28c tire on 25mm internal width rim on the rear,
I use 58psi on both wheels. Yes, 25c tire using 58psi. That's not a mistake. It's not really squishy either, wide rim really works.

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by Weber

DaveS wrote:
Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:54 am
Use the pressure calculator at zipp.com. Works for me.
Thanks Daves. I tried it and it gave me this result

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by Hexsense

Change surface to wet in the calculator.
Wet pressure works in dry, but dry pressure compromise grip a bit in wet.

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Hexsense wrote:
Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:10 am
My data point: 64kg rider using
25c tire on 23mm internal width rim on the front,
28c tire on 25mm internal width rim on the rear,
I use 58psi on both wheels. Yes, 25c tire using 58psi. That's not a mistake. It's not really squishy either, wide rim really works.
My setup:

Wheelset: Roval CLX 50 (21mm internal width)
Tires: Continental GP 5000 tube-type, 28mm (measures 29.8mm on above rims), front & rear.
Tube: Vittoria Latex
Frame: Tarmac SL6

At 65 kg, I run 48 PSI front and rear.
Road conditions far from pristine.

No flats, no tires coming off, hassle-free all around and most importantly: very fast & comfortable.

With 100 PSI on 23mm tire, I would never ride the bike. I would hate how the ride beats me up.
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by ghostinthemachine

bobones wrote:
Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:30 am
Note it uses measured tire width, not sidewall label.
an important point. My largest road tires are 4 mm wider than the label when fitted, which makes about 1 bar difference in recommended pressures.

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by Weber

bobones wrote:
Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:30 am
Silca Pro Pressure Calculator is a good one. Note it uses measured tire width, not sidewall label.
https://silca.cc/pages/sppc-form
ghostinthemachine wrote:
Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:38 am
bobones wrote:
Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:30 am
Note it uses measured tire width, not sidewall label.
an important point. My largest road tires are 4 mm wider than the label when fitted, which makes about 1 bar difference in recommended pressures.
This real tire width apply on Zipp calculator too?

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by ryanw

The SRAM / ZIPP calculator is much better than the Silca one. Takes rim ID into account which has a huge part to play in tyre pressures.
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by Weber

The new standard on road bike if it were possible to specify it, are the rims of 21mm inner width?

I saw that roval makes them at least 21mm

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bobones wrote:
Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:40 am
ryanw wrote:
Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:55 am
The SRAM / ZIPP calculator is much better than the Silca one. Takes rim ID into account which has a huge part to play in tyre pressures.
The Silca one uses the measured tyre width so the internal rim diameter is accounted for.
No it doesn't. Lets not get cofused with pressure and volume here.

A narrow rim with wide tyre and a wide rim with the same width tyre can have an almost identical tyre width, but the tyre profile is very different (lightbulb vs flat sidewalls).

The volume of the tyre shall always be identical since it is a 2D object, but the rim volume is much smaller on a narrow wheel, so the total system volume shall differ.

Greater volume = lower pressure, Boyle's Law and all that.
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by Lewn777

I've been told that some people can tell the difference between thinner and thicker butyl tubes or latex and rims that are 2mm wider. Supposedly the reason I can't tell the difference is that I run too high pressures or crap tires or something. Honestly I can only just tell the difference between tubeless and tubed road tires, therefore those people have over-active imaginations IMO.

There is no prefect psi for your weight it depends on road surface. Same rider tires and wheels you'd match the pressure to the road - super smooth bitumen roads, run high pressures like 100psi. Rough roads like Paris-Roubaix much lower maybe 50-60psi, DH MTB 20-30psi. These calculators seem like nonsense to me unless you are simply running them on a 'super-smooth bitumen at all times' algorithm.

Of course rider weight does come into the equation, but it's a percentage less for lighter riders plus bike after accounting for road surface.

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