I have come to the conclusion that there are 2 possibilities:
the first one, Winspace and Speeder are the same factory, the second, Speeder is the supplier of Winspace, in both cases the direct sales by Speeder are helpful to sell the frame that don't have passed the QC required by the main customers.
Winspace SLC2.0 anyone???
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I can't say I agree with your conclusion. Speeder has multiple commercial clients that they sell their open mold frames to (Winspace, Adris, and Parapera being some of the documented ones).Rone69 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 9:19 amI have come to the conclusion that there are 2 possibilities:
the first one, Winspace and Speeder are the same factory, the second, Speeder is the supplier of Winspace, in both cases the direct sales by Speeder are helpful to sell the frame that don't have passed the QC required by the main customers.
And they happen to sell their frames direct-to-consumer as well. I have one, and it's great. What you do not get to do as a B2C customer with them, is any sort of customization (no special or custom paint, no decals, etc). You also do not get the typical "after sales support" that you would with most major brands, where you can go into your local bike store to deal with any issues. Speeder does have a 2-year warranty (look at their website), so can coordinate with them directly, but your mileage may vary.
If you have concerns with the dealing with Speeder, then you can always just buy from Winspace, Adris, or Parapera for the peace of mind.
What is the price when ordering at speeder directly?daforce84 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:20 pmI can't say I agree with your conclusion. Speeder has multiple commercial clients that they sell their open mold frames to (Winspace, Adris, and Parapera being some of the documented ones).Rone69 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 9:19 amI have come to the conclusion that there are 2 possibilities:
the first one, Winspace and Speeder are the same factory, the second, Speeder is the supplier of Winspace, in both cases the direct sales by Speeder are helpful to sell the frame that don't have passed the QC required by the main customers.
And they happen to sell their frames direct-to-consumer as well. I have one, and it's great. What you do not get to do as a B2C customer with them, is any sort of customization (no special or custom paint, no decals, etc). You also do not get the typical "after sales support" that you would with most major brands, where you can go into your local bike store to deal with any issues. Speeder does have a 2-year warranty (look at their website), so can coordinate with them directly, but your mileage may vary.
If you have concerns with the dealing with Speeder, then you can always just buy from Winspace, Adris, or Parapera for the peace of mind.
At the time I ordered:Eterna7m wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 9:30 pmWhat is the price when ordering at speeder directly?daforce84 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:20 pmI can't say I agree with your conclusion. Speeder has multiple commercial clients that they sell their open mold frames to (Winspace, Adris, and Parapera being some of the documented ones).Rone69 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 9:19 amI have come to the conclusion that there are 2 possibilities:
the first one, Winspace and Speeder are the same factory, the second, Speeder is the supplier of Winspace, in both cases the direct sales by Speeder are helpful to sell the frame that don't have passed the QC required by the main customers.
And they happen to sell their frames direct-to-consumer as well. I have one, and it's great. What you do not get to do as a B2C customer with them, is any sort of customization (no special or custom paint, no decals, etc). You also do not get the typical "after sales support" that you would with most major brands, where you can go into your local bike store to deal with any issues. Speeder does have a 2-year warranty (look at their website), so can coordinate with them directly, but your mileage may vary.
If you have concerns with the dealing with Speeder, then you can always just buy from Winspace, Adris, or Parapera for the peace of mind.
Frameset: $690 USD
Seatpost: $45
FSA NO.42 headset: $25
Shipping costs will vary
Flat paypal fee of $45
Leadtime was 3-months (and they were on schedule, so I presume they plan and schedule out production lots). Things could've changed by now.
The price is US$650/set.Eterna7m wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 9:30 pmWhat is the price when ordering at speeder directly?daforce84 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:20 pmI can't say I agree with your conclusion. Speeder has multiple commercial clients that they sell their open mold frames to (Winspace, Adris, and Parapera being some of the documented ones).Rone69 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 9:19 amI have come to the conclusion that there are 2 possibilities:
the first one, Winspace and Speeder are the same factory, the second, Speeder is the supplier of Winspace, in both cases the direct sales by Speeder are helpful to sell the frame that don't have passed the QC required by the main customers.
And they happen to sell their frames direct-to-consumer as well. I have one, and it's great. What you do not get to do as a B2C customer with them, is any sort of customization (no special or custom paint, no decals, etc). You also do not get the typical "after sales support" that you would with most major brands, where you can go into your local bike store to deal with any issues. Speeder does have a 2-year warranty (look at their website), so can coordinate with them directly, but your mileage may vary.
If you have concerns with the dealing with Speeder, then you can always just buy from Winspace, Adris, or Parapera for the peace of mind.
The shipping cost to Italy is US$140 (tax free).
The finish is clear coating or matte black painting.
You can’t put them into the basket.Eterna7m wrote:You can buy some rim brake SLCFerdi77 wrote:All of the frames on the page are sold out - weird?
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Will you be able to do the sanding process like video below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJJuG3We_6w
Another method is using a sticker(with diameter is less than 41mm and roll the sand paper with sanding side face out to sand the bb. Insert into BB and sanding the bracket.
As long as you don't sand bb diameter above 41mm then it should be fine.
Looks like no warranty replacement and a DIY job. Nice frame but disappointing after all the hype and stellar review about winspace quality 🥲
It's total waste of money to support company that buys frames that are available to public from an oem and puts their sticker to it. In this case it's clear they do not offer any additional value such as additional qc or better warranty.wtneo wrote:Their reply (cut and paste from my email)
Will you be able to do the sanding process like video below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJJuG3We_6w
Another method is using a sticker(with diameter is less than 41mm and roll the sand paper with sanding side face out to sand the bb. Insert into BB and sanding the bracket.
As long as you don't sand bb diameter above 41mm then it should be fine.
Looks like no warranty replacement and a DIY job. Nice frame but disappointing after all the hype and stellar review about winspace quality 🥲
Good luck with sanding it down. Hope it works.
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Speeder has 2 years, winspace 3 years. Good to know that makes no difference whatsoever lolIvanZg wrote:It's total waste of money to support company that buys frames that are available to public from an oem and puts their sticker to it. In this case it's clear they do not offer any additional value such as additional qc or better warranty.wtneo wrote:Their reply (cut and paste from my email)
Will you be able to do the sanding process like video below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJJuG3We_6w
Another method is using a sticker(with diameter is less than 41mm and roll the sand paper with sanding side face out to sand the bb. Insert into BB and sanding the bracket.
As long as you don't sand bb diameter above 41mm then it should be fine.
Looks like no warranty replacement and a DIY job. Nice frame but disappointing after all the hype and stellar review about winspace quality 🥲
Good luck with sanding it down. Hope it works.
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