Rumors Next Generation Campagnolo Road?

[Dov]

Makes sense. Going to 13x2 seems to be a lot of effort for little gain

[Roel W]

Very happy to see they ditched the G3 spoke pattern.

[Matija]

Very happy to see they ditched the G3 spoke pattern.

? why?
Nicest looking wheelset in my opinion. Unique & recognizable

[moock]

Very happy to see they ditched the G3 spoke pattern.

? why?
Nicest looking wheelset in my opinion. Unique & recognizable

I HOPE that they keep it...... Maybe just different for the single new model.

[usr]

It's their second "post G3", after Levante. I never really liked G3 on the front wheel, so if I'm not the only one who feels that way disc might have killed it. Perhaps they might consider a G3 rear/crossed front mix to get an approximation of the G3/radial? There would be an easy technological "excuse", the disc front wheel needs to transfer torque (like all rear wheels), but hub flames are much more symmetric than on the rear.

[ParisCarbon]

Dunno if this has been posted. before??

https://road.cc/content/tech-news/campa ... U_bprLXndw

[RDY]

Given that Ekar is their best selling gruppo in ages and there's lots of demand for wireless, it would be no surprise if it appears before road.

[raggedtrousers]

I find Campag's (apparent) refusal to consider electronic on anything other than EPS rather odd. They can surely see the huge demand for 105/Ultegra level electronic shifting, and yet seem deliberately to be ignoring that.

The alternative explanation is that something new is indeed coming.

Personally, I'd like to see 2 electronic road groupsets, one splitting the difference between Record and SR, and the other splitting Centaur/Chorus, and keep Chorus (and maybe SR) as the dedicated mechanical option(s), but with a polished silver finish option. Introduce an electronic Ekar option as well. That then looks like a strong but streamlined line-up to me.

[tomato]

I find Campag's (apparent) refusal to consider electronic on anything other than EPS rather odd.

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[usr]

I find Campag's (apparent) refusal to consider electronic on anything other than EPS rather odd. They can surely see the huge demand for 105/Ultegra level electronic shifting, and yet seem deliberately to be ignoring that.

They tried, back in the day when electronic was presented as a super-expensive upgrade option to the mechanical default and not as a style choice that's perhaps a little more expensive. And guess what, very few people were willing to spend roughly SR mechanical money on an EPS Athena.

Today, if you wanted to offer both side by side, you'd have to make electronic the default version (because competitors have itas the only version) and then mechanical shouldn't be much cheaper.

[smokva]

They tried, back in the day when electronic was presented as a super-expensive upgrade option to the mechanical default and not as a style choice that's perhaps a little more expensive. And guess what, very few people were willing to spend roughly SR mechanical money on an EPS Athena.

This problem is easy to solve, just stop offering mechanical groupset and in the mind of ppl low level electric groups will be more acceptable. That's what Shimano is doing. By removin mechanical Ultegra and Dura-Ace they opened window for lower level electric group.
Noone would buy electric 105 for the price of mechanical Dura-Ace, but if mechanical Dura-Ace isn't there percived categories change.

[usr]

But has Di2 Ultegra ever scratched the price of mechanical DA? I honestly don't know, but my impression was that the difference wasn't that big once they stayed rolling out Di2 below DA.

[raggedtrousers]

I find Campag's (apparent) refusal to consider electronic on anything other than EPS rather odd. They can surely see the huge demand for 105/Ultegra level electronic shifting, and yet seem deliberately to be ignoring that.

They tried, back in the day when electronic was presented as a super-expensive upgrade option to the mechanical default and not as a style choice that's perhaps a little more expensive. And guess what, very few people were willing to spend roughly SR mechanical money on an EPS Athena.

Today, if you wanted to offer both side by side, you'd have to make electronic the default version (because competitors have itas the only version) and then mechanical shouldn't be much cheaper.

Well, a couple of things:
1. The market as a whole has very clearly moved on since the days of Athena EPS. There is a much greater demand for electronic than there was; I'd say that's pretty indisputable when you look at the success of Rival AXS.

2. Pricing is a somewhat separate argument. Campag appear to be able to offer Ekar and Chorus for semi-sensible money, so if electronic versions of those were 10-20% more than their Shimano equivalents (GRX Di2, UDi2), I wouldn't see that as a deal breaker for many.

[rollinslow]

Scrolling through instagram yesterday, almost every gravel bike from Enve to Mosaic was built with Ekar. It seems logical that electronic Ekar comes ASAP. My wife has Ekar and I rode it, and it is a fantastic group.

I also think that wireless Ekar could be the lightest groupset which would be a big selling point as well. Mech Ekar is extremely light.

[RDY]

Scrolling through instagram yesterday, almost every gravel bike from Enve to Mosaic was built with Ekar. It seems logical that electronic Ekar comes ASAP. My wife has Ekar and I rode it, and it is a fantastic group.

I also think that wireless Ekar could be the lightest groupset which would be a big selling point as well. Mech Ekar is extremely light.

Highly doubt it'll be as light as Red 1x with similar sized ring and cassette. I think for the OEM market, Ekar wireless has to come in below Red AXS 1X pricing. And I don't think they do that by making cranks, calipers, brifters and cassette superlight. I'd guess cranks, cassette, calipers will all be identical to mech Ekar.