Rumors Next Generation Campagnolo Road?

[rollinslow]

when is the official release date?

A friend of mine (shop owner) was looking at getting EPS 12 for his new ride.. after talking to one of his distributors, the distributor more or less said wait til March..
Dunno how true any of that is.. theyve kept the lid pretty tight on this one...

Based on the patents that were linked above, it looks like this could be a pretty radical design. Hopefully it is full wireless which would be a big selling point over Shimano.

[morrisond]

when is the official release date?

A friend of mine (shop owner) was looking at getting EPS 12 for his new ride.. after talking to one of his distributors, the distributor more or less said wait til March..
Dunno how true any of that is.. theyve kept the lid pretty tight on this one...

Based on the patents that were linked above, it looks like this could be a pretty radical design. Hopefully it is full wireless which would be a big selling point over Shimano.

You will be happy.

[jlok]

when is the official release date?

A friend of mine (shop owner) was looking at getting EPS 12 for his new ride.. after talking to one of his distributors, the distributor more or less said wait til March..
Dunno how true any of that is.. theyve kept the lid pretty tight on this one...

Based on the patents that were linked above, it looks like this could be a pretty radical design. Hopefully it is full wireless which would be a big selling point over Shimano.

You will be happy.

Is it going to mandate the use of N3W freehub?

[JensNL]

and... is the crankset Ultra Torque with Pro Tech like EKAR?

[jlok]

If light weight is the target, I hope it would beat the SRAM XG 10-26.

[gorkypl]

Is it going to mandate the use of N3W freehub?

You need N3W for any cassette starting with 9 or 10.

[BigBoyND]

If light weight is the target, I hope it would beat the SRAM XG 10-26.

Not necessary. Just as Shimano has always been lighter than Sram with a heavier cassette.

[jlok]

But why not lighter than competition in every component especially when the update seems to be targeting light weight? Or is this update just playing catch up with wireless solution?

[gwerziou]

I doubt that they're just playing catch up, but they still might not prioritize a lighter cassette as you would prefer.

[raggedtrousers]

While Campag aren't/won't be looking to compete with Rival AXS and 105 Di2, the success of those groupsets (and the fact that no one really seems to care that UDi2 is chomk these days) shows that weight is almost a non-issue for groupset manufacturers these days. It needs to be 12 speed, electronic, and wireless.

Not saying I agree, btw, just saying it as I see it.

I had really, really hoped that Campag would bring EPS down to Chorus level, but I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that's not going to happen. I think it's the one (hypothetical) groupset I'd have pre-ordered.

[Aress]

Dont know who is the marketing guy at Campagnolo but if they didnt determine that there was a market for mid tier electronic groupset. They either dont ride bikes or lack common sense.

Chorus electronic would sell like hot cakes

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[mrbrown4001]

Dont know who is the marketing guy at Campagnolo but if they didnt determine that there was a market for mid tier electronic groupset. They either dont ride bikes or lack common sense.

Chorus electronic would sell like hot cakes

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This times a million. This could be said about a lot of companies marketing department as well. I would t be surprised if most of them just make products for whatever pros they sponsor and then just sell those same products to the rest of us.


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[Miller]

Chorus electronic would sell like hot cakes

I'm sure the Campag people do plenty of riding but let's not forget they've done Chorus electronic already. They got a bit burned by Chorus/Athena EPS 11v, it was not a big success. I can tell you that technically it was a lovely group (there was hardly any difference between the chorus and athena EPS) but I think it was just too expensive on introduction and never recovered from that. Well, that was a decade ago, when electronic groups didn't have the ubiquity they do now, so maybe it's time for them to try an electronic group again but price will remain an issue.

[XCProMD]

The problem then was the mechatronic platform the mid tiers were built upon was very expensive. The EPS actuator is a gem with its resolver, working at a higher voltage (lower amp for same torque out of the motor), reduction system…

They need a cheap servo if they want to compete with Rival/Ultegra


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[Lina]

Chorus electronic would sell like hot cakes

I'm sure the Campag people do plenty of riding but let's not forget they've done Chorus electronic already. They got a bit burned by Chorus/Athena EPS 11v, it was not a big success. I can tell you that technically it was a lovely group (there was hardly any difference between the chorus and athena EPS) but I think it was just too expensive on introduction and never recovered from that. Well, that was a decade ago, when electronic groups didn't have the ubiquity they do now, so maybe it's time for them to try an electronic group again but price will remain an issue.

We've been over this multiple times, the Chorus/Athena EPS were ahead of their time and expensive. Mechanical was still very much a thing back then. It's like trying to sell disc brake road bikes in 2013, seeing that there isn't much of a market and using that as a reasoning to not build disc frame/groupset in 2023. You have to be blind to not see that they NEED electronic medium range groupset to compete with Rival and 105. And that there would be market for one.