Agree that I would need at least 15 cogs on x1 to replicate the range and close ratios of my Red 11s 11-28 cassette and 52/36 chainrings. 16 cogs would be better.Hexsense wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:19 pmtrue for 53/39 or Sram's narrow range front rings (50/37, 48/35, 46/33).OnTheRivet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:09 pm1x14 would have EVERY gear you would have running 2x12 without the overlap.upacs wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:53 pmThat's a pretty arrogant statement. Just because 1x14 would work fine for you, it doesn't mean it works fine for everyone.aeroisnteverything wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:50 pmA 13-speed like that is pretty well set for a 1x drivetrain. At 14-speed, it'd be stupid NOT to go 1x.
I could happily ride a 1x14 (assuming no chainline issues), but I'd be even happier with a 2x13. And dear friend, I may not be the smartest cookie in the jar, but I'm most certainly not stupid.
You need more for bigger range of 52/36 and 50/34.
Then even more for 46/30 or 44/28 (which I'm using on my gravel bike).
44/28 is 57% increase in gear ratio. The 44/28 with 11/30 have to be replaced with 44 front ring and 11-47
Or 40 front ring with 10-42.
In my head, I'd need 16 cogs in the back to smooth the jump of 44 front and 11-47t vs 44/28 with 11-30.
Also, on the imaginary 11-47 cassette, there is a cluster of 30-33-37-42-47 that each of them are all larger than the 28t small ring it replace.
Edit: Here, I even plot it out. Gear-calculator.com don't allow me to plot 16 cog cassette. So I draw 12-13-14 in paint.
So if 16s is the bar for good road x1 and we are currently on 13s, I would guess we're at least 15 years away at the current rate of development.