The best stem for carbon steerer tubes

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matteof93
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by matteof93

I am looking for an aluminium stem that allows to correctly spread the clamping force of the stem over a large area of the steerer tube.
Basically, I am looking precisely for the opposite of popular stems like the Extralite ones.

This is an example of what I do not want to use
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This is an example of what I would like to find
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Any idea?

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tjvirden
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by tjvirden

Most are much nearer the top in terms of cut-out, as you have discovered.
Bontrager Race X Lite has a smaller cut-out than many, and works well on carbon steerers and bars in my experience. I've also had success with Ritchey C220/C260 and 3T Arx (first generation), but the cut-outs are larger than the Bontrager.

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by alcatraz

The op is using his head on this one. So many people just trust the brand and ignore common sense. Of course the stem at the top (at a certain clamping force F) is going to leave a deeper nastier imprint on the steerer tube.

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by matteof93

alcatraz wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 1:33 pm
The op is using his head on this one. So many people just trust the brand and ignore common sense. Of course the stem at the top (at a certain clamping force F) is going to leave a deeper nastier imprint on the steerer tube.
There is also another option: using a 1" 1/4 (or 1" 1/2) stem with an adapter for the standard 1" 1/8 steerer tube. I think that the adapter is thick enough to evenly spread the clamping force.

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Cemicar
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by Cemicar

~I believe every Bontrager stem has no cutout in the clamping zone~ (no, actually XXX carbon or a few only).

Btw, what's the point of this small pin-hole? I don't think it reduces much weight nor the stem really needs hole to a drain water... The diameter doesn't seems enough big for a electronic cable.
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by wannabefast

Cemicar wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:29 pm
I believe every Bontrager stem has no cutout in the clamping zone.

Btw, what's the point of this small pin-hole? I don't think it reduces much weight nor the stem really needs hole to a drain water... The diameter doesn't seems enough big for a electronic cable.
I think it's for heat escape/relief during the production/forging process, otherwise the metal might warp or something.

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by mikemelbrooks

Cemicar wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:29 pm
I believe every Bontrager stem has no cutout in the clamping zone.

Btw, what's the point of this small pin-hole? I don't think it reduces much weight nor the stem really needs hole to a drain water... The diameter doesn't seems enough big for a electronic cable.
My guess would be that it's to allow the escape of air during manufacture.

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by stevesbike

alcatraz wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 1:33 pm
The op is using his head on this one. So many people just trust the brand and ignore common sense. Of course the stem at the top (at a certain clamping force F) is going to leave a deeper nastier imprint on the steerer tube.
any imprint on the steerer tube is the sign of over-tightening. There's no need for any torque values about 4-5 Nm for stem/steerer bolts.

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by Ypuh

stevesbike wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:05 pm
alcatraz wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 1:33 pm
The op is using his head on this one. So many people just trust the brand and ignore common sense. Of course the stem at the top (at a certain clamping force F) is going to leave a deeper nastier imprint on the steerer tube.
any imprint on the steerer tube is the sign of over-tightening. There's no need for any torque values about 4-5 Nm for stem/steerer bolts.
I torque mine to 4Nm with a Stahlwille torque wrench and it still leaves minor imprints.
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by bikewithnoname

May I ask why you want a stem like this?

Unless you have a paper thin carbon steerer you'll be fine with extralite, I've run them for over 10yrs on various forks without any marks/blemishes.
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MaxPower
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by MaxPower

The specialized stems with shims. Enve stem with shims. Zipp has one as well.

They do a fine job with spreading clamp forces. Might be on heavy side though.

Metron 5d (integrated stem/bar from vision) has no holes at all on the clamping area.

Hexsense
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by Hexsense

Bontrager (Blendr Pro) stems are pretty kind to the steerer tube.
But not as kind to carbon bar. It's not bad but can leave a bit of mark on the bar clamp.

usr
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by usr

Would "no hole" actually be better? Better than "reinvesting" the weight saved by the hole in additional clamping surface at the edge?

DaveS
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by DaveS

The hole shouldn't be a problem unless the stem is over tightened. I use nothing but stems with big holes and never have a problem. My stems for a long time were Ritchey and now I use the zipp sl service course.
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stevesbike
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by stevesbike

The Ritchey Superlogic Carbon C260 is probably the most advanced design if you're really concerned. In addition to a huge surface area, the opening has a curved radius design so the clamping force is distributed and has 3 bolts with the middle bolt going the opposing direction and all 3 have a max torque of 4Nm. The faceplate is also well-designed with the stem having a 260 degree wrap on the bar.

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