2022 New Frame Rumours

[maquisard]

If Cannondale were ordering frames with BB's vastly out of spec to prevent rejection that would indicate poor QC control. Nonetheless, the end result matters here. And the end result is often poor quality with premium pricing.

No it wouldn't, the QC would be fine, they would just be changing the spec so more frames passed QC. It says nothing about the effectiveness of the QC. All manufacturing processes have a yield that passes QC without re-work, by lowering spec you are increasing the yield. It is widely known that Cervelo changed the spec on BBright to increase the yield.

[wheelsONfire]

I'd say it's worse on my UP. No idea why precision is so hard, Ax Lightness obviously makes it.

Ax Lightness don't make the UP, they did a very limited manufacture of some of the Open MTB frames but never the gravel frames.

All Open frames are made in Asia, presumably in the same place as 3T frames.

Jesus, no no, Ax for sure don't make any Open frames. I know the story of the prototypes well. Spoke to Andy about that.
The precision on Ax is way better than on UP.

[Karvalo]

My frame has direct press bearings. That means you just press right and left bearings right into the frame. No creak, no problems. They fit tight and snug.
I'd say it's worse on my UP. No idea why precision is so hard, Ax Lightness obviously makes it.
Only other frame i know of had this, was original RCA. But they quit and started with standard pressfit

That's not a guarantee of performance either. Trek BB90 presses bearings directly into the frame and they ended up having to make a B spec slightly bigger bearing for use in frames where the original bearing didn't sit right in the shell anymore.

[wheelsONfire]

My frame has direct press bearings. That means you just press right and left bearings right into the frame. No creak, no problems. They fit tight and snug.
I'd say it's worse on my UP. No idea why precision is so hard, Ax Lightness obviously makes it.
Only other frame i know of had this, was original RCA. But they quit and started with standard pressfit

That's not a guarantee of performance either. Trek BB90 presses bearings directly into the frame and they ended up having to make a B spec slightly bigger bearing for use in frames where the original bearing didn't sit right in the shell anymore.

Sad for Trek owners. I haven't had that issue on none of my 3 Ax Lightness Vial EVO. 2015, 2016 and the last (considered a 2019 version) Vial EVO Race.
However, i can't say it won't happen. So far no problem and Ax lightness have never steered away from this design.

[Lina]

The thing with pressfit BBs is that they work without any problems as long as the frame is within the designed tolerances. As you get to frames that aren't within the tolerances you run into a massive array of problems. People blame pressfit for all those problems when they should in reality be blaming the bike manufacturers for selling them something that should have never passed QC. Many of these manufacturers have now moved back to threaded BBs, but I can guarantee you that they haven't fixed their tolerances and QC. If they couldn't make good pressfit BBs I can guarantee that the pressfit BBs won't be any better. You may not hear any creaking, but it'll eat your bearings just the same.

And the reason manufacturers can get away with such piss poor QC is because people for some reason are willing to take that level of quality from frames that cost $$$$.

[ViperFFM]

The thing with pressfit BBs is that they work without any problems as long as the frame is within the designed tolerances. As you get to frames that aren't within the tolerances you run into a massive array of problems. People blame pressfit for all those problems when they should in reality be blaming the bike manufacturers for selling them something that should have never passed QC. Many of these manufacturers have now moved back to threaded BBs, but I can guarantee you that they haven't fixed their tolerances and QC. If they couldn't make good pressfit BBs I can guarantee that the pressfit BBs won't be any better. You may not hear any creaking, but it'll eat your bearings just the same.

And the reason manufacturers can get away with such piss poor QC is because people for some reason are willing to take that level of quality from frames that cost $$$$.

This. Also, Pressfit BB are way stiffer than threaded BBs. But then again this only applies if tolerances are met...

[bikewithnoname]

A frame from Light Bicycles (better known for their wheels):

https://www.lightbicycle.com/Journey-Ca ... uting.html

[TobinHatesYou]

A frame from Light Bicycles (better known for their wheels):

https://www.lightbicycle.com/Journey-Ca ... uting.html

Rarely am I absolutely repulsed by the look of a bicycle [frame.]

[pmprego]

A frame from Light Bicycles (better known for their wheels):

https://www.lightbicycle.com/Journey-Ca ... uting.html

As some people rightfully pointed out it's rhe same frame as winspace gravel frame. But they are not pretty, that's for sure.

[Maddie]

Looks like a riveted military jet

[FlatlandClimber]

New Ribble Ultra looks aero AF. I like!

https://www.bikeradar.com/news/ribble-ultra/

[pmprego]

New Ribble Ultra looks aero AF. I like!

https://www.bikeradar.com/news/ribble-ultra/

People will not be able to say "they are all equal now" about this ribble bike.

[FlatlandClimber]

Yep. I love that they do that. Not sure I like the handlebar looks, the levers not being clamped or the lack of bar tape, but if it is faster, it's all fair and good!

[CustomMetal]

Yep. I love that they do that. Not sure I like the handlebar looks, the levers not being clamped or the lack of bar tape, but if it is faster, it's all fair and good!

Very interesting!

[pmprego]

Yep. I love that they do that. Not sure I like the handlebar looks, the levers not being clamped or the lack of bar tape, but if it is faster, it's all fair and good!

Given the bottom part shape I guess it seems fairly trivial to put tape downthere (just like the new shimano pro handlebar). The upper part is differente but hey... free speed is what they are talking about
I wonder if that's something we'll see in track racing. Handlebars that somehow flare up.

What about those fork blades!! The new UCI rules are starting to appear on bikes. I saw that and thought "there you go specialized, now is up to you and your #aeroiseverything"