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Antoine22
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by Antoine22

I think we'll see a new Colnago from the C-serie next year. C64 is out of production now and LBS told me they are working on the next one

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Antoine22 wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 7:36 pm
C64 is out of production now
That seems a bit dubious as there are still a number of online sites offering the C64 for sale with 60-90 day lead times. I suspect more that it is more likley that Colnago is feeling the effects of the Pandemic on supply chains which is causing intertuption to production schedules.
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FlatlandClimber wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 8:37 am
Makes sense. It's a little outdated and the cable solution on the front is the worst I have seen.


I'm not sure how well 3T are doing. Could be the Strada's getting scrapped entirely.

They sold THM to Schmolke after a short period of ownership, and the gravel bike framesets have been on almost permanent large discounts at most of their retailers for the last 18 months.

I get the feeling they expanded too quickly, and might also be beginning to suffer from their deserved reputation of very poor QC and conformance - though it doesn't yet seem to be hurting stablemate Open.

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FlatlandClimber wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:31 am
Pinarello F14?
Pinarello K10 successor?
Bianche Oltre XR5
Giant Trinity Disc?
Trek Speedconcept Disc?
Pinarello Bolide TT Disc?
Colnago Kone Disxc?
Cube Aeriun Disc?

Can't really see these age old rimbrake bikes be made for another year. Don't know if Pinarello will release a K10 successor with Paris Roubaix still questionable, but that bike is outdated as well.
Pinarello Dogma 60.1 was released in 2009
Pinarello Dogma 2 was released in 2011
Pinarello Dogma 65.1 Think2 was released in 2012
Pinarello Dogma F8 was released on May 2014
Pinarello Dogma F10 was released on Jan 2017
Pinarello Dogma F12 was released on May 2019

Based on the trend we may see a new Dogma this year.

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RDY wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 8:13 pm
FlatlandClimber wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 8:37 am
Makes sense. It's a little outdated and the cable solution on the front is the worst I have seen.


I'm not sure how well 3T are doing. Could be the Strada's getting scrapped entirely.

They sold THM to Schmolke after a short period of ownership, and the gravel bike framesets have been on almost permanent large discounts at most of their retailers for the last 18 months.

I get the feeling they expanded too quickly, and might also be beginning to suffer from their deserved reputation of very poor QC and conformance - though it doesn't yet seem to be hurting stablemate Open.
I feel like the Exploro RaceMax is doing well, seems like a great bike. For the Strada though, I asked 3T and apparently they're discontinuing the Due - the person I talked to said they "weren't aware" of a new Strada design, but who knows. Vroomen did say on the blog somewhere they were planning on putting out a new seatpost for the Strada early this year, maybe this means they're updating the frame too?

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Antoine22 wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 7:36 pm
C64 is out of production now
not true , Colnago accepts orders for C64 , just waiting time now is 4-5 months instead of 2 ....

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derosa2000 wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 10:33 pm
Antoine22 wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 7:36 pm
C64 is out of production now
not true , Colnago accepts orders for C64 , just waiting time now is 4-5 months instead of 2 ....
ms6073 wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 7:58 pm
Antoine22 wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 7:36 pm
C64 is out of production now
That seems a bit dubious as there are still a number of online sites offering the C64 for sale with 60-90 day lead times. I suspect more that it is more likley that Colnago is feeling the effects of the Pandemic on supply chains which is causing intertuption to production schedules.
My bad then, I didn't understand what my LBS meant so

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derosa2000 wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 10:33 pm
Antoine22 wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 7:36 pm
C64 is out of production now
not true , Colnago accepts orders for C64 , just waiting time now is 4-5 months instead of 2 ....
Having spoken to our distributor several times recently, Colnago have unpainted stock of most C64 frames in Italy right now and the lead time is for painting to order.

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Karvalo wrote:
Thu May 06, 2021 7:15 am
derosa2000 wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 10:33 pm
Antoine22 wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 7:36 pm
C64 is out of production now
not true , Colnago accepts orders for C64 , just waiting time now is 4-5 months instead of 2 ....
Having spoken to our distributor several times recently, Colnago have unpainted stock of most C64 frames in Italy right now and the lead time is for painting to order.
I might change my LBS then :lol:

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Will be interesting too see successor of F12. Disc only version is a norm nowadays but I would not be supriced if they introduce also rim brake version, tha last of one :)
Anyways it will have to shed a lot of weight for Ineos to choose disc brake version for the whole season.
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Somewhat related, but saw this Colnago joins the NFT game by offering limited-edition C64 digital render at auction in another thread. So not wild about spending $5000 for a digital render, but if we take a closer look at the images in the artical, I am wondering if that is actually a rendering of the next iteration. From my perspective there are several subtle differences from the current C64 such as the joints between tubes and lugs look different, not to mention how the seat post appears to be an ISP design, that or the seat post/seat stay lug has been updated.

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by derosa2000

Karvalo wrote:
Thu May 06, 2021 7:15 am
derosa2000 wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 10:33 pm
Antoine22 wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 7:36 pm
C64 is out of production now
not true , Colnago accepts orders for C64 , just waiting time now is 4-5 months instead of 2 ....
Having spoken to our distributor several times recently, Colnago have unpainted stock of most C64 frames in Italy right now and the lead time is for painting to order.
Lead time is for to produce and paint frame ... not true for stock of unpainted C64

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by jclnc

ms6073 wrote:
Thu May 06, 2021 7:20 pm
Somewhat related, but saw this Colnago joins the NFT game by offering limited-edition C64 digital render at auction in another thread. So not wild about spending $5000 for a digital render, but if we take a closer look at the images in the artical, I am wondering if that is actually a rendering of the next iteration. From my perspective there are several subtle differences from the current C64 such as the joints between tubes and lugs look different, not to mention how the seat post appears to be an ISP design, that or the seat post/seat stay lug has been updated.
Aside: it's not even paying for the digital render, which you can just download for free. You're paying for a piece of paper that says "digital render of C64, do not reproduce this piece of paper" on it.

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by RDY

Frames aren't changed except for paintjobs I don't think, but BMC 2022 TeamMachine and RoadMachine are now hitting the channel.

Bike24 have stuff in stock.

https://www.bike24.de/p1470043.html
https://www.bike24.de/p1470063.html

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Is there anything of note from Bianchi? The Oltre XR4 looks outdated as hell.
Cervelo P5 Disc (2021) 9.1kg
Factor Ostro Gravel (2023) 8.0kg
S-Works SL8 (2023) 6.3kg

*weights are race ready, size 58/L.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT, Crux, Aethos, SL7

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