Sram Rival AXS

[TheRich]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQqfkSEtjXY

Guy have a point.

Not really. Just another guy who can't grasp the concept that some people have gear preferences that don't match his own.

It's not even that. That video is dumb.

[TobinHatesYou]

If you want mechanical Chorus, get mechanical Chorus. The existence of Rival AXS doesn’t change anything for you.

[Feehliks]

I would love to see a mechanical rim brake version. One use case for these lesse expensive groups is to modernize older bikes and these typically are not prepared for disc brakes.

[Kjetil]

Nothing wrong with 105 for such a purpose.



But of course if you need wireless shifting to feel modern it comes up short.

[Feehliks]

I have an allergy to cables and the only cure is to get rid of them as far as possible

[Maddie]

I have an allergy to cables and the only cure is to get rid of them as far as possible

As said before, force shifters

[Lina]

I have an allergy to cables and the only cure is to get rid of them as far as possible

Then why are you trying to modernize older bikes that can't get rid of cables completely?

[ViperFFM]

So why do engines have to be run in?

Nice troll

[maquisard]

Indeed, but it actually makes the point.

Engines used to have to be run in as the manufacturing tolerances on pistons, piston rings and cyclinders were such that to achieve a good seal and hence good compressions, a run in period was required. This is generally now not the case.

Older car engines used to wear in, now new engines only wear out. But that is a sign of better manufacturing tolerances. Wearing something in during use is is an inefficiency that should have been accounted for during production.

[henau212]

Indeed, but it actually makes the point.

Engines used to have to be run in as the manufacturing tolerances on pistons, piston rings and cyclinders were such that to achieve a good seal and hence good compressions, a run in period was required. This is generally now not the case.

Older car engines used to wear in, now new engines only wear out. But that is a sign of better manufacturing tolerances. Wearing something in during use is is an inefficiency that should have been accounted for during production.

That is not true. At least sport engines still have to be run in. See Porsche for example first 1000km, BMW M for 2000km. Both are followed by an oil change.

[maquisard]

This is generally now not the case.

I own a light aircraft with a Lycoming IO-540 engine. After zero hours overhaul I had to run it in also. But this is specialist case and it is an older large bore design.

[Kjetil]

So why do engines have to be run in?

Nice troll

Now that’s a first!
Tempting to report you.

[ViperFFM]

lol

[cubixthe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQqfkSEtjXY

Guy have a point.

Not really. Just another guy who can't grasp the concept that some people have gear preferences that don't match his own.

It's not even that. That video is dumb.

And so is the RIVAL AXS grupset To be honest, with that weight it should be banned from WeightWeenies or something lol. I can get RED AXS, top materials and performance plus the choice of rim brakes for ultimate lightweight and wireless experience but this is ridiculous. Pay a price that's anything but budget friendly for a bzzzzt bzzzzt sound and a bike that's heavy AF ? Come on guys. But sure, it will sell because people swallow the hype like crazy.

[TheRich]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQqfkSEtjXY

Guy have a point.

Not really. Just another guy who can't grasp the concept that some people have gear preferences that don't match his own.

It's not even that. That video is dumb.

And so is the RIVAL AXS grupset To be honest, with that weight it should be banned from WeightWeenies or something lol. I can get RED AXS, top materials and performance plus the choice of rim brakes for ultimate lightweight and wireless experience but this is ridiculous. Pay a price that's anything but budget friendly for a bzzzzt bzzzzt sound and a bike that's heavy AF ? Come on guys. But sure, it will sell because people swallow the hype like crazy.

The pricing and the weight are potential big problems for OEMs.

I was looking at Emondas the other day to compare and if you only include the weight differences of the drivetrain components, you can spend almost $5k for Rival AXS or spend $900 more for UDi2 and get a bike that's over a pound (600g) lighter...plus the weight difference from the marginally better components on the Ultegra bike.