Rumor about Dogma F14?

[FlatlandClimber]

Website back up but no bike yet...

[robbosmans]

Maybe release together with the tdf presentation?

[survivor]

It's up now!

https://pinarello.com/global/en/bikes/r ... on/dogma-f

[FlatlandClimber]

No DA model at launch? Not before 9200?

[FlatlandClimber]

Review: https://cyclingtips.com/2021/06/pinarel ... -required/

Their size 55 (probably the 530) is 7.4kg, SRAM Red AXS with Assioma and DT 1400 DB wheels, with one bottle cage and no out front mount.
So, there should be 100g in the wheels/ tires, and some 150g in the pedals. Let's say 7.1kg with 1470g wheels and Pirelli Velo tires.
Better than before but not amazing either.

[dogmabike]

Videos are streaming in on the new bike. Looks good don't it

[dogmabike]

So, 6.8kg with SRAM Red Disc and 6.9kg with Dura-Ace Di2 Disc. Surely with some lighter wheels can get that weight down even further. Would have expected it to be lighter though, when the Tarmac S-Works is what 6.6kg claimed or something?

[spdntrxi]

So, 6.8kg with SRAM Red Disc and 6.9kg with Dura-Ace Di2 Disc. Surely with some lighter wheels can get that weight down even further. Would have expected it to be lighter though, when the Tarmac S-Works is what 6.6kg claimed or something?

does not sound right.. if all other things equal generally DA is a little lighter then AXS...

[FlatlandClimber]

LBS says "end of the year"... Might as well wait for DA9200.

[FlatlandClimber]

So, 6.8kg with SRAM Red Disc and 6.9kg with Dura-Ace Di2 Disc. Surely with some lighter wheels can get that weight down even further. Would have expected it to be lighter though, when the Tarmac S-Works is what 6.6kg claimed or something?

Those are claimed weights with no pedals. The Red AXS version CyclingTips tested came in at 7.4kg with pedals. As elaborated above 7.15kg or so would be the weight when a little more weightweenie parts are applied. Subtract around 200g for current gen DA. No one knows if next gen is lighter or heavier.

[FlatlandClimber]

Double post.

[dogmabike]

So, 6.8kg with SRAM Red Disc and 6.9kg with Dura-Ace Di2 Disc. Surely with some lighter wheels can get that weight down even further. Would have expected it to be lighter though, when the Tarmac S-Works is what 6.6kg claimed or something?

Those are claimed weights with no pedals. The Red AXS version CyclingTips tested came in at 7.4kg with pedals. As elaborated above 7.15kg or so would be the weight when a little more weightweenie parts are applied. Subtract around 200g for current gen DA. No one knows if next gen is lighter or heavier.

Ah yes you're right my mistake. Too excited to write properly. That built weight with pedals is interesting - plus factor in a power metre crankset as well

[FlatlandClimber]

Yeah, the added weight for a Quarq integrated PM would probably be offset by a light saddle and something like TPU or latex inners or Tubeless.

[robbosmans]

Looks like a great all round bike, can’t wait to see one in person

[Berzin1]

And here is a take of the frame from the boys at GCN-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp_GZfZ0Uac

The weight savings is due to the use of Japanese Torayca T1100 1K carbon with nano alloy technology.

A 53cm F will be 265 grams lighter than a 53cm F12, 12% stiffer in the bottom bracket area, 3.2% more aerodyanmic than the rim brake F12 and 4.8% more aero than the disc F12.

I'm guessing the retail price for frame, fork and cockpit to be north of 7 grand.