Rumor about Dogma F14?
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If the saving is mainly in the paint job, that would be very poor!
Would be good to have the option of a light bike that is painted beautifully, too.
Other brands have managed that, too
Would be good to have the option of a light bike that is painted beautifully, too.
Other brands have managed that, too
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Right. You can have both. Nice paint jobs don't have to weight a lot. But Pinarello's paint seems to. I'm not saying they should be raw, but that they should deploy the same paint methods that the other brands use so it doesn't add a centimeter of paint.
Their frames are already claimed ~800-850g unpainted, which is competitive. Not sure how they can save another 200g without modernizing the paint process.
Their frames are already claimed ~800-850g unpainted, which is competitive. Not sure how they can save another 200g without modernizing the paint process.
The video released today seems to confirm the reduced weight claim.BigBoyND wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:14 amRight. You can have both. Nice paint jobs don't have to weight a lot. But Pinarello's paint seems to. I'm not saying they should be raw, but that they should deploy the same paint methods that the other brands use so it doesn't add a centimeter of paint.
Their frames are already claimed ~800-850g unpainted, which is competitive. Not sure how they can save another 200g without modernizing the paint process.
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So what did we learn so far from the daily release video sneak peak?
- Awesome paint job!
- Basic form and fit seem to be similar to current F12 beside the bottom bracket and seat stay area.
- Reduce weight of some sort from the -3 day video highlighting "Gravity Defied". Pinarello officially commented on their Instagram "Lightness has been redefined to help you defy gravity". I highly doubt the actual weight reduction will be as dramatic.
- Rim brake survived.
- Di2 rear derailleur direct mount is available, at least for rim brake variant.
- Minor update on ForkFlap shape? Maybe my eye is playing trick on me.
- Awesome paint job!
- Basic form and fit seem to be similar to current F12 beside the bottom bracket and seat stay area.
- Reduce weight of some sort from the -3 day video highlighting "Gravity Defied". Pinarello officially commented on their Instagram "Lightness has been redefined to help you defy gravity". I highly doubt the actual weight reduction will be as dramatic.
- Rim brake survived.
- Di2 rear derailleur direct mount is available, at least for rim brake variant.
- Minor update on ForkFlap shape? Maybe my eye is playing trick on me.
The last two videos are a little hyperbolic. My guess is that the weight savings will be modest, as you say. It still won't be the world's lightest bike. And it doesn't look much different than the F12. Still, I'm excited to see what they come up with.survivor wrote: ↑Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:27 pmSo what did we learn so far from the daily release video sneak peak?
- Awesome paint job!
- Basic form and fit seem to be similar to current F12 beside the bottom bracket and seat stay area.
- Reduce weight of some sort from the -3 day video highlighting "Gravity Defied". Pinarello officially commented on their Instagram "Lightness has been redefined to help you defy gravity". I highly doubt the actual weight reduction will be as dramatic.
- Rim brake survived.
- Di2 rear derailleur direct mount is available, at least for rim brake variant.
- Minor update on ForkFlap shape? Maybe my eye is playing trick on me.
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The veil will be officially lifted at 3pm - which I think refers to GMT... might be CEST also, but I think it is the former.
Cervelo P5 Disc (2021) 9.1kg
Factor Ostro Gravel (2023) 8.0kg
S-Works SL8 (2023) 6.3kg
*weights are race ready, size 58/L.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT, Crux, Aethos, SL7
Factor Ostro Gravel (2023) 8.0kg
S-Works SL8 (2023) 6.3kg
*weights are race ready, size 58/L.
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Found this in some comment section on FB:
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Looks super similar. Just hope it is NOT called F14. Don't think this naming scheme works well with 14,16,18.
And hope it is sub 7 with disc brakes
Edit:
And according to this article by L'Equipe,
The name "Dogma F" Is pretty much confirmed;
And hope it is sub 7 with disc brakes
Edit:
And according to this article by L'Equipe,
The name "Dogma F" Is pretty much confirmed;
Cervelo P5 Disc (2021) 9.1kg
Factor Ostro Gravel (2023) 8.0kg
S-Works SL8 (2023) 6.3kg
*weights are race ready, size 58/L.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT, Crux, Aethos, SL7
Factor Ostro Gravel (2023) 8.0kg
S-Works SL8 (2023) 6.3kg
*weights are race ready, size 58/L.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT, Crux, Aethos, SL7
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That paint job is eerily similar to that of the SL7 DA.
Cervelo P5 Disc (2021) 9.1kg
Factor Ostro Gravel (2023) 8.0kg
S-Works SL8 (2023) 6.3kg
*weights are race ready, size 58/L.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT, Crux, Aethos, SL7
Factor Ostro Gravel (2023) 8.0kg
S-Works SL8 (2023) 6.3kg
*weights are race ready, size 58/L.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT, Crux, Aethos, SL7
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UCI approved frame list confirms the name, it now shows a Dogma F and a Dogma F Disc
https://www.uci.org/docs/default-source ... -forks.pdf
https://www.uci.org/docs/default-source ... -forks.pdf
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