Rumor about Dogma F14?

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caballero
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by caballero

Those look great. weight aside, if you havent ridden one of the recent dogmas give one a go. they are phenomenal bikes.

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by ccie6872

caballero wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:11 am
Those look great. weight aside, if you havent ridden one of the recent dogmas give one a go. they are phenomenal bikes.
+1!

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ccie6872 wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:25 am
caballero wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:11 am
Those look great. weight aside, if you havent ridden one of the recent dogmas give one a go. they are phenomenal bikes.
+1!
+1!!!
I started riding my F12 last month.
And offcourse there are many great bike out there. But the F12 surely is one of them.

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by petromyzon

Anyone any idea about the "Pro Ltd" Conti tyres on these new Princetons? Same as pictured on Pidcock's bike.

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I had an F10 before such a great bike on par with tarmacs. The reason I sold it paint bubbling started underneath the bb shell. I think from galvanic corrosion of the aluminum threaded and carbon wrapped shell.
Not to mention the seatpost is so difficult to remove when traveling

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petromyzon wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 7:31 am
Anyone any idea about the "Pro Ltd" Conti tyres on these new Princetons? Same as pictured on Pidcock's bike.
Pro Issue only, latex innertube tubs.

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petromyzon wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 7:31 am
Anyone any idea about the "Pro Ltd" Conti tyres on these new Princetons? Same as pictured on Pidcock's bike.
Believe they're just supplied to pro teams. Occasionally you can pick them up on ebay

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by Alfus

You're talking of differents things.. tyres and tubulars.

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by petromyzon

Agreed. Historically Pro Ltd has referred to latex-tubed tubs but I think the new Princetons are clincher/tubeless which begs the question: is this a new, lighter, faster version of the GP5000/GPTT?

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by agfu

Guessing this might have been a dealer presentation of the new bike yesterday? Anyone hear anything from their LBS on the name, Frame weights, etc?
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ome rodriguez wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 5:56 am
Maybe 6,8 with lightweights
Just yesterday I saw a black F12 Xlight Disc with Lightweights, Campag Super Record. 8.01Kg.

How do you get that down 1.2Kg "without problems"? Some fanboys here be tripping.

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otnemem wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:49 am
ome rodriguez wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 5:56 am
Maybe 6,8 with lightweights
Just yesterday I saw a black F12 Xlight Disc with Lightweights, Campag Super Record. 8.01Kg.

How do you get that down 1.2Kg "without problems"? Some fanboys here be tripping.
Remove the stack of headset spacers that are fitted to most pinarello's 👍🏻😂

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otnemem wrote:
ome rodriguez wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 5:56 am
Maybe 6,8 with lightweights
Just yesterday I saw a black F12 Xlight Disc with Lightweights, Campag Super Record. 8.01Kg.

How do you get that down 1.2Kg "without problems"? Some fanboys here be tripping.
Some people jump on the last message without looking at the history of posts… I don’t recall anyone saying they could drop a disc bike to 6.8.
- people mentioned the use of LW (on their rim brake bikes) to reach 6.8. And they don’t need LW to reach 6.8 on their rim bike.
- The debate on f12-14 disc weight may be relevant for us, not relevant for Ineos since its was a conscious decision, from the start, to use rim brakes after performance test they conducted. In short discs were not giving any advantage FOR THEM, and measured rim bike more performant (at least on f10 and 12 that I know of), then pointless FOR THEM looking the “if we were using a disc F12 we would need…”


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Supersix evo2HM : 5.71Kg

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by hannawald

C36 wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:36 pm
otnemem wrote:
ome rodriguez wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 5:56 am
Maybe 6,8 with lightweights
Just yesterday I saw a black F12 Xlight Disc with Lightweights, Campag Super Record. 8.01Kg.

How do you get that down 1.2Kg "without problems"? Some fanboys here be tripping.
Some people jump on the last message without looking at the history of posts… I don’t recall anyone saying they could drop a disc bike to 6.8.
- people mentioned the use of LW (on their rim brake bikes) to reach 6.8. And they don’t need LW to reach 6.8 on their rim bike.
- The debate on f12-14 disc weight may be relevant for us, not relevant for Ineos since its was a conscious decision, from the start, to use rim brakes after performance test they conducted. In short discs were not giving any advantage FOR THEM, and measured rim bike more performant (at least on f10 and 12 that I know of), then pointless FOR THEM looking the “if we were using a disc F12 we would need…”


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Supersix evo2HM : 5.71Kg
I just wonder if they want to use rim brake bike in 2 years as well (F14 will be here for some time)..they will be probably the only ones in world tour..it is possible to get Colnago V3RS in disc version (one of few other used rim brake bikes in the peloton) near 6.8 kgs so Pinarello should try..

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by Bridgeman

For the record, my F10 built with Campy EPS was 14.48 lbs/ 6.57kg. I got no issues with my bike.
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