2021 Road Bike Stiffness Chart

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by dbzznlqbqft

Taiyoto wrote:
Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:32 am
Where is Conalgo V3RS?? the 20 champion Tour de France??
the Trek Emonda SLR disc, the BB is very stiff comparing with V3RS and the Cervelo R5 is the mostly high stiffness in the BB, this is for high crazy riders.

For me I recommend the TCR or Aethos version, are more comfortable.
Tour seems not to test any COLNAGO, I am curious about its BB stiffness too.

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dbzznlqbqft wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:23 am
Recently a chart listing TOUR magazine stiffness test data caught my interest, as a guy who loves data I decided to make one for myself. All the data are from tour magazine, but as I am not a german reader there are surely some missing models & mistakes. I hope you guys can help me update and improve it if you are willing to. Here are the models currently I am interested in, other models are also welcomed :beerchug: :

BMC Teammachine SLR (both 2017/2021)
Cannondale SuperSix HM (2016, Gen 2, rim-brake! rim-brake!)
Factor O2/O2 VAM

The problems I currently noticed:
i). Comfort only stands for the stock seatpost. Some models are allowed to change the seatpost, therefore if I swap my seatpost to something like DARIMO then we might have a different result.
ii). TOUR also has the aerodynamic result on a complete bike with the stock wheelset. But as aero varies hugely between a 25mm wheel and a 65mm wheel, all I can do is to sort out these aero bikes (this might be unfair for some models such as SL7).
iii). Some framesets were tested more than one time and lead to different results. For example, theoretically, 2015 Emonda SLR10 and SLR9 use the same frame but the result varies, so what I can do is to list them both (you will see a SLR in yellow and a SLR in red).
iv). I sort the models by brand - year - frame, as I am not an expert on some brands such as SCOTT, some frame model classification might be chaotic. For clarity, I am adding "DISC" for disc brake models no matter what.

Here is the result:
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I am also posting the chart that caught my interest, I referred to some data in that chart.
tour2020.jpg

Update 2021/3/13 - Don't be too serious about the data, this is just a reference better than nothing.
Update 2021/3/14 - Added 2016 Ultimate CF EVO, 2017 Vial EVO Ultra, 2017 Urgestalt DISC, 2019 795 Blade RS DISC
Update 2021/3/20 - Added 2014 Propel Advanced, 2015 765, 2015 GAN S, 2016 Blockhaus 67, 2016 Festka One, 2017 Cento 10 AIR, 2017 Dogma F10, 2017 Endurace CF SLX DISC, 2017 SuperSix Evo Hi-Mod DISC, 2018 Reacto CF4, 2020 SuperSix DISC, 2021 TCR Advanced DISC. Also modified some better name expressions for Merida and LOOK.



Hi there, where did you fint S-Works Tarmac SL6 Tour Mag test?

I can´t find anything.

Thanks!

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by Olivv

Very interesting.

Previously my Pinarello F10 I have owned a Cervelo R5, a Cannondale supersixevo hm 2, and à Fuji SL 1.1, and really there was no comparaison possible with the stiffness of the F10, all others were made with chewing gum... R5 and Cannondale essentially.

Very strange.

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Specialized Tarmac Disc Expert (sl6...?)
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tested in 2/2020 tour magazin:
https://www.tour-magazin.de/raeder/renn ... 48657.html
https://www.delius-klasing.de/aero-test ... 2020-22693

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Specialized Tarmac SL6 Sport
in 4/2021
https://www.tour-magazin.de/raeder/renn ... 50045.html


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Still not the latest Ax bike update which hammer all the rest on your list ;-)
Bikes:

Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2019.01.03)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)


Ex bike; Vial EVO D, Vial EVO Ultra, Scott Foil, Paduano ti bike.

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Olivv wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:41 pm
Very interesting.

Previously my Pinarello F10 I have owned a Cervelo R5, a Cannondale supersixevo hm 2, and à Fuji SL 1.1, and really there was no comparaison possible with the stiffness of the F10, all others were made with chewing gum... R5 and Cannondale essentially.

Very strange.
just illustrates that our subjective views are unreliable. My current Trek road bike is noodle by objective standards, both in the frame and handlebars, but I have never felt any weakness in sprinting, or in general handling. It's always down to the legs, and they can vary pretty dramatically from day to day.

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by dbzznlqbqft

wheelsONfire wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 9:17 am
Still not the latest Ax bike update which hammer all the rest on your list ;-)
I think the vial evo ultra is the latest rim-brake version? - this is exactly the result in the chart.
https://www.benobikes.com/en/news/revie ... ers-tested
I have to say a 68 BB stiffness is already very impressive for a super lightweight frameset, it already hammered many TDF bikes.

However, seems that tour didn't test any disc brake version yet.

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by dbzznlqbqft

spud wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:24 pm
Olivv wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:41 pm
Very interesting.

Previously my Pinarello F10 I have owned a Cervelo R5, a Cannondale supersixevo hm 2, and à Fuji SL 1.1, and really there was no comparaison possible with the stiffness of the F10, all others were made with chewing gum... R5 and Cannondale essentially.

Very strange.
just illustrates that our subjective views are unreliable. My current Trek road bike is noodle by objective standards, both in the frame and handlebars, but I have never felt any weakness in sprinting, or in general handling. It's always down to the legs, and they can vary pretty dramatically from day to day.
Just view this chart as some snacks then :D . Anyway, I do consider Trek one of the Tier 0 brands in spite of the theoretical noodle BB.

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dbzznlqbqft wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:56 pm
wheelsONfire wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 9:17 am
Still not the latest Ax bike update which hammer all the rest on your list ;-)
I think the vial evo ultra is the latest rim-brake version? - this is exactly the result in the chart.
https://www.benobikes.com/en/news/revie ... ers-tested
I have to say a 68 BB stiffness is already very impressive for a super lightweight frameset, it already hammered many TDF bikes.

However, seems that tour didn't test any disc brake version yet.
VIAL-evo-Disc-comparison-test.jpg
Bikes:

Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2019.01.03)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)


Ex bike; Vial EVO D, Vial EVO Ultra, Scott Foil, Paduano ti bike.

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by christiancarr

svendsvin wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 5:57 pm
Specialized S-Works Tarmac SL 2018
https://www.tour-magazin.de/raeder/renn ... 45739.html
and
viewtopic.php?t=143539&start=1050
Thank you, but everything is paid content. I can buy all tests but with the S-Works Tarmac SL6 I don´t see that option on TourMag site.

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by svendsvin

Yes. It looks like it is not for sale anymore:
https://www.delius-klasing.de/tour-02-2018-tou-2018-02

edit: found another link:
https://digital.tour-magazin.de/de/prof ... our-2-2018

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by mmeysarosh

In this thread there is the Ridley Noah Fast, Cannondale SystemSix, and Specialzied Venge that haven't made the list.

viewtopic.php?t=154692

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by dbzznlqbqft

mmeysarosh wrote:
Sun Apr 04, 2021 2:36 am
In this thread there is the Ridley Noah Fast, Cannondale SystemSix, and Specialzied Venge that haven't made the list.

viewtopic.php?t=154692
Thanks, will put them in the next update. :D

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