Any alternatives to using FSA Vision ACR 5D Metron

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itsacarr
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by itsacarr

Odd question I realize - but does anyone know if it's possible to run the Vision 5D Metron ACR on a non ACR setup using external cables?

So the Vision bar with your normal bearings ... cables run external.
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If you have holes in your frame and in the handlebars for external cable routing it should be simple. You should be able to run the same ACR headset without the cables running through it.
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Seven1816 wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:42 am
I followed the Yoeleo handlebar thread and made an order for them a couple of days ago, now waiting for delivery.
I am hoping the Yoeleo H10 headset spacer is the same diameter as the FSA ACR at roughly 57mm so the set up will be seemless, my bike has arrived and I have started changing out bits and pcs, I have taken at look at the fork steerer and indeed there is a pre-drilled hole there ready for the front brake hose to go thru that rather than through the ACR expansion plug. Understand that I will have to pull the brake hoses to install the new bar, but it works out well because I will reroute the front hose through the hole and I can swap the brakes round I am a Right for rear brake, the bike is built for the British market and cut the steerer by 10mm. Also I have suspect rear brake hose rattle in the frame on lateral movements, so time to get some foam sleeving for that.
Will post pics when the bars are done.
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by smokva

itsacarr wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:06 pm
Odd question I realize - but does anyone know if it's possible to run the Vision 5D Metron ACR on a non ACR setup using external cables?

So the Vision bar with your normal bearings ... cables run external.
I can't find a good pictures of those bars from below.
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I see there are some holes for cables on one side, but cant see what is on the other side, also I don't know is this hole big enough for brake and shift cable.
Definatley, this space for cables is less on 5D ACR than it was on prevous model 5D non-ACR.
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If someone can take a good pictre of 5D ACR from below it would be helpful. Even more helpful if someone can try and stick two cables in those holes.

Also, if the frame is not designed for ACR, you might need adapter topcap spacer which will reduce ACR spacer shape to standard round shape. This spacer (MW052 part no.) existed on non-ACR design, but I never saw it for ACR....never looked for it either.
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This is 400mm/120mm version. My biggest beef is they charge premium price and not include a headset cap. I ordered some ACR caps knowing its 1.5" size probably won't work on "standard" frames, but just wanna see if it's even close. Nope, it's 56mm wide. Found a set of Wilier spacer kit for Filante zero, they're 50mm wide and looks bang on. But before cutting the package open and end up with something I can't return, if you happen to have this Wilier cap on your bike I would like to know if it'll fit the smaller non integrated headset?
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engsohere wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:21 pm
This is 400mm/120mm version. My biggest beef is they charge premium price and not include a headset cap.Image
Wait, if you are missing the extremely proprietary cover that goes over that open cutout section where the stem attaches to the steerer tube, then you definitely need to contact the seller as it should be included?

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by engsohere

Hi Michael, I should have said headset top cover not headset top cap. The headset top cap is with the handlebar on the 1st scale photo. I don't see a top cover in your photo, only spacers. Are you running the regular headset or 1.5" ACR headset?

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smokva wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:31 am
itsacarr wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:06 pm
Odd question I realize - but does anyone know if it's possible to run the Vision 5D Metron ACR on a non ACR setup using external cables?

So the Vision bar with your normal bearings ... cables run external.
I can't find a good pictures of those bars from below.
Image
I see there are some holes for cables on one side, but cant see what is on the other side, also I don't know is this hole big enough for brake and shift cable.
Definatley, this space for cables is less on 5D ACR than it was on prevous model 5D non-ACR.
Image

If someone can take a good pictre of 5D ACR from below it would be helpful. Even more helpful if someone can try and stick two cables in those holes.

Also, if the frame is not designed for ACR, you might need adapter topcap spacer which will reduce ACR spacer shape to standard round shape. This spacer (MW052 part no.) existed on non-ACR design, but I never saw it for ACR....never looked for it either.
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due to a shortage of 5D ACR cockpits, FSA have come out with this nifty little SMR adaptor for their old 5D & 6D cockpits
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Seven1816 wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:56 am
Hi I have a new Orro Venturi arriving soon, it comes with the FSA ACR stem and aluminiun bars (Heavy). I truely want an integrated bar setup after coming from my Canyon H36 cockpit albeit not fully cable integrated. I have emailed Orro to ask if the front steerer is pre-drilled, that can accommodate other ICR, DCR and even FSA SMR systems, which would open up a gaggle of alternative setups, but they have not replied it's been over a week.........
Anyway I know the Vision 5D Metron ACR is ready to rock and roll, but are there any alternatives out there?
Hi Seven1816, I was wondering how you went with the Yoeleo H10 integrated bar/stem with you FSA ACR headset. Sorry if you have already provided this information. I have the same issue as you. I have a Bianchi Specialissima disc frameset with a FSA ACR headset and I am considering what stem/bars to use. The Vision Metron ACR would be an obvious choice, however they are quite chunky, so are considering other options eg: the Yoeleo H10, the Bontranger Aeolus rsl vrc integrated bar/stem and a few others. Any info you have would be greatly appreciated

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WilliamDove wrote:
Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:54 am
Seven1816 wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:56 am
Hi I have a new Orro Venturi arriving soon, it comes with the FSA ACR stem and aluminiun bars (Heavy). I truely want an integrated bar setup after coming from my Canyon H36 cockpit albeit not fully cable integrated. I have emailed Orro to ask if the front steerer is pre-drilled, that can accommodate other ICR, DCR and even FSA SMR systems, which would open up a gaggle of alternative setups, but they have not replied it's been over a week.........
Anyway I know the Vision 5D Metron ACR is ready to rock and roll, but are there any alternatives out there?
Hi Seven1816, I was wondering how you went with the Yoeleo H10 integrated bar/stem with you FSA ACR headset. Sorry if you have already provided this information. I have the same issue as you. I have a Bianchi Specialissima disc frameset with a FSA ACR headset and I am considering what stem/bars to use. The Vision Metron ACR would be an obvious choice, however they are quite chunky, so are considering other options eg: the Yoeleo H10, the Bontranger Aeolus rsl vrc integrated bar/stem and a few others. Any info you have would be greatly appreciated
I went down this rabbit hole recently for the same bike and just ended getting the chunky Metron 5s (not my first choice but a safe choice). You might be interested to know that Darimo confirmed that they do make an ACR adaptor for their integrated bars - I definitely would have done that but didn't want to wait until the end of summer to receive it...might still purchase it over the winter and put it on next spring.
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by engsohere

Just put mine on, they look almost OEM with the top cover and spacers. There's about 2-3mm clearance from the frame and the steering is very smooth.

The question is, where would you cut the fork to make the best use of the splittable spacer?


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by RDY

StiffWeenies wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 9:14 pm


due to a shortage of 5D ACR cockpits, FSA have come out with this nifty little SMR adaptor for their old 5D & 6D cockpits
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Have you any idea what the product code for this is?

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RDY wrote:
Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:25 pm
StiffWeenies wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 9:14 pm


due to a shortage of 5D ACR cockpits, FSA have come out with this nifty little SMR adaptor for their old 5D & 6D cockpits
Have you any idea what the product code for this is?
No idea

I suspect that they might not have released it yet, maybe they'll launch it in the '23 catalog?

Also keep in mind that the pictured adapter above is different from their first attempt which looks like this:
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