SRAM supports 11spd E-Tap again

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I ordered a set of Force AXS shifters and brakes in September, the estimated delivery is now in January or in February. I wonder if they will be updating them, because it takes so long. :?:

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11 spd is probably out because Sram only wish to support 12*2.
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Ty. This is a big relief.

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Just caught up with this. Fantastic news and great move SRAM!!

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I don't suppose there's any chance the AXS derraileurs work with 11 speed cassettes? I'm sure they could do it if they wanted to.

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RDY wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:41 pm
I don't suppose there's any chance the AXS derraileurs work with 11 speed cassettes? I'm sure they could do it if they wanted to.
An AXS 12 speed RD won't work with 11 speed, but an AXS FD might. In theory you could buy a new A2 11-speed RD and run it with AXS shifters and FD on an 11-speed drivetrain and have current tech 11-speed wireless shifting with warranty. I will be testing this very combination shortly with a Rival AXS FD and Red AXS shifters in place of my Red eTap ones.

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bobones wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:07 pm
RDY wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:41 pm
I don't suppose there's any chance the AXS derraileurs work with 11 speed cassettes? I'm sure they could do it if they wanted to.
An AXS 12 speed RD won't work with 11 speed, but an AXS FD might. In theory you could buy a new A2 11-speed RD and run it with AXS shifters and FD on an 11-speed drivetrain and have current tech 11-speed wireless shifting with warranty. I will be testing this very combination shortly with a Rival AXS FD and Red AXS shifters in place of my Red eTap ones.

The RD is the master control unit and nowhere does it say an AXS FD can pair with an A2 11-speed eTap RD.

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Can AXS FD work with 11 speed ? Anyone tried it yet ?

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hoopes wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:05 pm
Can AXS FD work with 11 speed ? Anyone tried it yet ?

TY
Indeed this is the key since etap11 FD is no longer in service.
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The AXS FD will work with a Shimano 12 chain and my Shimano grx 11 speed chainrings, The 12 speed shaimano chain works with 11 speed, since it's one of the widest made.

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spdntrxi wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:21 pm
hoopes wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:05 pm
Can AXS FD work with 11 speed ? Anyone tried it yet ?

TY
Indeed this is the key since etap11 FD is no longer in service.
No, THY is correct and AXS FD will not pair with an 11 speed RD. I was erroneously thinking that derailleurs paired with shifters, but all components pair with the RD, which is the master.

The AXS FD would need a firmware update, much like the AXS shifters have just had, to be compatible with 11 speed. I think it's unlikely that SRAM would release such a firmware because the physical dimensions of the AXS FD are probably not optimal for 11 speed. We can hope SRAM release an A2 version of the FD like they have for the RD, but you have to wonder if there is a business case for doing so.

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by whataboutEee

So basically if anything goes wrong with an 11 etap F derailleur then you have completely bricked the entire grouppo?

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whataboutEee wrote:
Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:06 am
So basically if anything goes wrong with an 11 etap F derailleur then you have completely bricked the entire grouppo?

It means you need to find someone to sell you a used FD (or NOS) or run 1x, yes. There might be a slim chance that SRAM unlocks legacy pairing on the FD. I wouldn't necessarily count that out. They're in no danger of cannibalizing sales and that would be a good way to keep older groups serviceable by rolling cross compatibility of the previous generations when the new-new comes out.

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