Canyon Aeroad 2021

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Visqu
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wheelsONfire wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:45 pm
FlatlandClimber wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:33 pm
What exactly are the wheels? On the German page it says, that the Dura Ace comes with a front wheel that is 17mm internal, while the rear wheel is 20mm interval. The Red AXS version comes with 17mm internal width on both wheels. 17mm would be the old DTSwiss/Swiss Side Wheel, which I'd be very (negatively) surprises by. Any idea what's going on here?
Go check at the spec at Canyons web.
He did, that's why he's asking..

Anyway, somewhere it was said that the new DT Swiss wheels would start shipping with the bikes early 2021 or something along those lines.

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by Unniti

Few thoughts
* What exactly is the point of a frameset that comes with levers and brakes? It makes no *f##k* sense. If I'm buying a frameset I want a frameset.
* The spec sheets claim 65 g weight difference between CF SLX and CFR frames with cocpit, fork, and seatpost being the same. Not really something I'd pay extra for.
* I'm a fan of the adjustable cockpit with removable ends. Should make packing the bike a lot easier. It's the first fully integrated design I could see myself living with. Not a big fan of their sizing though. Would like to see a 100 and 110 mm options with the 37 - 41 cm width option.

I'd like one CF SLX frameset, without any components, in blue please. Or even better the women's mint.

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JayDee81 wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:20 pm
maxim809 wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:15 pm
4. I'd like to know if it's possible for ordinary customers to purchase the more aggressive 'pro' version frame...
To the point #4, there is no pro version frame, only the handlebar. They said it has -17° stem.
Ah got it, thanks for the clarification.
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Build of the bike: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-UU1Owduq0

Love the sight of him weighing the "handlebar" :lol:

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Visqu wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:49 pm
wheelsONfire wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:45 pm
FlatlandClimber wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:33 pm
What exactly are the wheels? On the German page it says, that the Dura Ace comes with a front wheel that is 17mm internal, while the rear wheel is 20mm interval. The Red AXS version comes with 17mm internal width on both wheels. 17mm would be the old DTSwiss/Swiss Side Wheel, which I'd be very (negatively) surprises by. Any idea what's going on here?
Go check at the spec at Canyons web.
He did, that's why he's asking..

Anyway, somewhere it was said that the new DT Swiss wheels would start shipping with the bikes early 2021 or something along those lines.
Ah (Dah!), now i get it!
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Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2018.12.21)
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wheelsONfire wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:45 pm
FlatlandClimber wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:33 pm
What exactly are the wheels? On the German page it says, that the Dura Ace comes with a front wheel that is 17mm internal, while the rear wheel is 20mm interval. The Red AXS version comes with 17mm internal width on both wheels. 17mm would be the old DTSwiss/Swiss Side Wheel, which I'd be very (negatively) surprises by. Any idea what's going on here?
Go check at the spec at Canyons web.
It says 17mm front 20mm rear. That means old front, new rear. That is very, very weird.

Edit: the new DT/ SwissSide wheels are fantastic and the old ones were pretty much outdated (too narrow for a 25c) the day the launched.
Cervélo S5 Disc (2019) - 7.8kg
Open WI.DE (2019) - 8.5kg
Specialized Shiv TT Disc (2020) - 7.9kg
Specialized SW Æthos (2021) 6.4kg
Trek Émonda SLR9 (2021) 6.9kg

*all weights include pedals, computer mounts, speed sensor, and bottle cages.

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by Lima

Visqu wrote:
wheelsONfire wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:45 pm
FlatlandClimber wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:33 pm
What exactly are the wheels? On the German page it says, that the Dura Ace comes with a front wheel that is 17mm internal, while the rear wheel is 20mm interval. The Red AXS version comes with 17mm internal width on both wheels. 17mm would be the old DTSwiss/Swiss Side Wheel, which I'd be very (negatively) surprises by. Any idea what's going on here?
Go check at the spec at Canyons web.
He did, that's why he's asking..

Anyway, somewhere it was said that the new DT Swiss wheels would start shipping with the bikes early 2021 or something along those lines.
They are both the old spokes and hub from 2017 apparently going off video below.

It appears the rear has a “Wide” sticker on, so I guess it is some sort of variant. I couldn’t find it in a 2 minute google but maybe someone else can. It appears the old ARC 1100 https://bikerumor.com/2017/05/17/dt-swi ... swissside/ all had 17mm rim width, so perhaps it is the newer rim but with the older hub and spokes?

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by ccie6872

JPuerto wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:56 pm
aeroisnteverything wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:50 pm
JPuerto wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:40 pm
Do we have any info about getting a CF SLX frameset?
It looks to me like the CFR and SLX framesets are the same (Ultegra version weight specs difference is what you'd expect from just swapping out the groupset). So if you want a frameset - it's CFR. Which ain't cheap, to be perfectly honest. Complete bike is good value for money compared to the competition; frameset alone is basically where everyone else is for the top tier stuff.
Shame, I was really looking forward to getting this one but the CFR frameset price is just too much when you can still get your hands on some Scott Addicts, Venges, and the new Look 795 blade RS looks promising not CFR level maybe but old SLX which is good enough for sure.
do you have the link for the frameset alone? I can't seam to find it on their site?

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I don't what BB Canyon have?
Is it a 30mm PF?
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Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2018.12.21)
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Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)


Ex bike; Vial EVO D

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by Visqu

wheelsONfire wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:57 pm
I don't what BB Canyon have?
Is it a 30mm PF?
Looks like the same BB86 as on all of their other models.
Shimano Dura Ace builds are also specced with shimano's BB92 PF.
Confusing name yeah, but it's for 86mm wide bottom bracket shells.

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wheelsONfire wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:57 pm
I don't what BB Canyon have?
Is it a 30mm PF?
According to the Cyclingtips review it's PF86.

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by Lima

Cycling Weekly weighed the bikes, not sure if includes pedals, pictures on article showed with but video review they showed without.

“We weighed both medium and large Aeroad CFR models and the overall weights (with Dura-Ace power meter, two bottle cages, and Garmin mount) come out as 6.89kg and 7.17kg respectively.”


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by CAAD8FRED

Anyone else not like the colors that much. VdP's bike looks great.

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Lima wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:02 pm
Cycling Weekly weighed the bikes, not sure if includes pedals, pictures on article showed with but video review they showed without.

“We weighed both medium and large Aeroad CFR models and the overall weights (with Dura-Ace power meter, two bottle cages, and Garmin mount) come out as 6.89kg and 7.17kg respectively.”


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even Canyon says 7.3kg sans pedals... mfg generally dont sand bag
2019 BMC TM01 Road UCI config 7.36kg

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Lima wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:02 pm
Cycling Weekly weighed the bikes, not sure if includes pedals, pictures on article showed with but video review they showed without.

“We weighed both medium and large Aeroad CFR models and the overall weights (with Dura-Ace power meter, two bottle cages, and Garmin mount) come out as 6.89kg and 7.17kg respectively.”


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That's weird, why would Canyon overstate the weight on the site and not by a small amount either? If I had an aero bike coming in at under 7 I'd be shouting that from the rooftops

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