New aero bike

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wheelsONfire
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by wheelsONfire

Could this compete with the big brands?
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https://predatorcycling.com/products/rf20
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smartyiak
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by smartyiak

Who/what are they? When I looked at their site, the first thing that popped into my head was:

https://cyclingtips.com/2019/06/what-ha ... to-speedx/

(I guess they're in TN, USA, so it's different...but it still amde me thing of SpeedX).

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by robeambro

Armchair aerodynamicist here, but the fork - which is arguably a very important component - looks all but aero.
Pricing is laughably high for a brand that - at least I - have never heard of. Might be more known in the US, I guess.

I see no reason to buy such a product, at that price one would get a (likely) far lighter and (probably) more aero Factor Ostro, to mention one.

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I think it's interesting, but there is very little info available.
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TobinHatesYou
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by TobinHatesYou

Can a render compete with a real bike? Probably not.

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Pretty ugly. And $5250 for the frame set is laughably high. Are they made in the US?
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Shiverton
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by Shiverton

Kinda looks like a scam to be honest...

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Dan Gerous
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by Dan Gerous

TobinHatesYou wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:07 pm
Can a render compete with a real bike? Probably not.
:mrgreen: :thumbup:

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by gzon

Bastard child from mating a BMC Timemachine road with a Pinarello F12?

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wheelsONfire
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Probably one of the prototypes....
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Open *UP* (2016.04.14)


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by XCProMD

Forget it, I thought there was a wooden master in the Instagram picture, but it’s just the naked frame.

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JMeinholdt wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:16 pm
Pretty ugly. And $5250 for the frame set is laughably high. Are they made in the US?
If you bothered to look at the little info they actually have on the web, you'll see all made in house.
10% discount for pre-order.
Custom is a bit high at 6750 USD!!
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Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2018.12.21)
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Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)


Ex bike; Vial EVO D

JMeinholdt
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wheelsONfire wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:18 pm
If you bothered to look at the little info they actually have on the web
If their site/info was one notch above garbage (it's not), I would've dug deeper. It's not a good looking frame. Does not have enough details. Logo/paint schemes, despite customization, look terrible.

I'm all for more companies building frames outside of China, but they don't seem to be helping themselves much.
Wilier Cento10AIR Rim Brake - SRAM Force AXS
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by Karvalo

wheelsONfire wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:18 pm
JMeinholdt wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:16 pm
Pretty ugly. And $5250 for the frame set is laughably high. Are they made in the US?
If you bothered to look at the little info they actually have on the web, you'll see all made in house.
It says made in house but nowhere does it specify made in the US. In fact, the website seems to be doing its best to specify nothing at all, the whole thing is word soup. The technology page is nothing but a collection of buzzwords thrown at a page until something sticks. I defy anyone to read through it and have a single clue what it is they actually do. The same holds true on the product page of the bike - take this description of the T47 shell they use - "The RF20 utilizes a standard BB386 spacing system with an integrated T47 threaded cup. This extended system joined with composite molding, creates encapsulated bearings, thus eliminating unnecessary creaking joints." It's absolute shite. The choice of BB shell creates encapsulated bearings? WTF is that supposed to mean? Nothing on the site gives me any confidence in them as a company, it is truly terrible.

Plus the bike's pretty ugly, which is more important :P

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by TobinHatesYou

That’s a lot of words for saying they chose T47 with internal cups.

Anyway it looks like some small carbon repair business is going in way over its head.

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