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Chinarello V Pinarello by Luescher

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:14 am
by velov
Raoul Luescher does a detailed comparison...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZnPY0hMs_8

Chinarello V Pinarello by Luescher

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:14 am
by Weenie

Re: Chinarello V Pinarello by Luescher

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:18 am
by Shpox
Both look junk really. :noidea:

Re: Chinarello V Pinarello by Luescher

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:26 am
by velov
Shpox wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:18 am
Both look junk really. :noidea:
Yeah for what Pina charges it shouldn't require that much of an analysis.

Re: Chinarello V Pinarello by Luescher

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 4:12 am
by Mr.Gib
Aren't they both Chinarello's?

The faults in the genuine frame around the seat tube cluster are unforgivable. I'll pass.

Re: Chinarello V Pinarello by Luescher

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:56 am
by Steve Curtis
Pinarello have and will always be a brand I'd never buy. Just something about them.

Re: Chinarello V Pinarello by Luescher

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:35 am
by wheelsONfire
Well, how many bikes have you seen "cut through"?
Also, how many frames from each brand?
Not to say i'd buy a copy, i have never even bought a single item or component "used".
Personally, i try to support European brands made in Europe.

A guy in town is racing/ competing, both MTB and Road.
Anyway, he bough a new Specialized MTB with a large indent. It looks like a small ball have been in the mold.
He went back to the deal, which in turn took a pic and sent to the agent/ distributor here.
He did not get a replacement frame. Agent had lots of this "model" with same indent.
The bikes was bough during 2020.
So, do i say all Specialized frames are shit!
Nope,... But who would want that visual flaw in their new bought full price bike!?

Re: Chinarello V Pinarello by Luescher

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:18 am
by Rishie
That’s an interesting video and for some part not a huge amount of difference between the frames! :evil:

Re: Chinarello V Pinarello by Luescher

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:13 pm
by c60rider
4 years ago when I built up my dream superbike I had it in mind that I would probably buy a Pinarello. Maybe a historical reason as I loved the old steel ones ridden by the Reynolds/Banesto team. But the rate that Sky were breaking them every time they crashed really started to put me off and then realised the obvious choice for me was a C60. I don't think there's anything special about a Pinarello any more and you can put them with all other manufacturers that make their frames in the same oriental factories. Only they charge a massive premium for the name perhaps double the price of what they ought to. Maybe it's to pay the Grenadiers to sponsor them I still can't get over that name they're going to be called :lol: . I only hope Colnago don't go completely oriental and still make their flagship frame in Italy.

Re: Chinarello V Pinarello by Luescher

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:33 pm
by kgt
In general, all outsourced in China carbon frames are of the same low quality. The brand of the frame does not really matter.

Re: Chinarello V Pinarello by Luescher

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:46 pm
by roadhog44
Rishie wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:18 am
That’s an interesting video and for some part not a huge amount of difference between the frames! :evil:
Other than just one developing a fault that would've likely resulted in serious injury...no real difference......

Re: Chinarello V Pinarello by Luescher

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:59 pm
by robertbb
The quality on BOTH is absolutely putrid. Unbelieveable!

Just another data point reinforcing my decision never to buy a carbon bike again. Unless it's a Giant.

Re: Chinarello V Pinarello by Luescher

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:15 pm
by ichobi
kgt wrote:In general, all outsourced in China carbon frames are of the same low quality. The brand of the frame does not really matter.
My friend’s 2019 Cipo still have misaligned integrated seat post. European made and all. Image this is not the first one either. Keep believing.

Re: Chinarello V Pinarello by Luescher

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:22 pm
by Rishie
roadhog44 wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:46 pm
Rishie wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:18 am
That’s an interesting video and for some part not a huge amount of difference between the frames! :evil:
Other than just one developing a fault that would've likely resulted in serious injury...no real difference......
Ha...yeah, other that one minor detail. :wink:

Re: Chinarello V Pinarello by Luescher

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:11 pm
by hannawald
Nice video. It is couple of years old frame, i guess the production methods have evolved and some brands now claiming their frames looks almost as good from inside as from outside..

Re: Chinarello V Pinarello by Luescher

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:39 pm
by Nejmann
Steve Curtis wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:56 am
Pinarello have and will always be a brand I'd never buy. Just something about them.
Ever tried one?

Re: Chinarello V Pinarello by Luescher

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:39 pm
by Weenie