2021 BMC Teammachine

Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.

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LukiP
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by LukiP

Pukutis wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:10 pm
Swedius wrote:Simply amazing bikes. I've tried 3 different TeamMachine 2021 models now and all feel splendid, much better than a few other popular brands with similar price tags.

The SLR01 One (Red Etap) is great and beautiful. The Mon Chasseral wheels at super light weight and responsive.

I was afraid the SLR01 Four (Ultegra DI2) wouldn't feel as good but it did.

Also tried SLR One and it's a stunning ride as well. Even though the bike weight is 7,99 kg (54) instead of advertised 7,7.
I am after the slr01 four, do you know the real weight? I found the color in blue very beatiful


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Do you have any info about that CRD 351 wheels?

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Swedius
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by Swedius

card0s wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:00 pm
Now I'm curious, which other popular brands with similar price tags are you talking about? Could it be the new Trek Émonda?
And what do you mean by much better? Weight, comfort, responsivess? Care to elaborate? Thanks
I tried these which I consider almost similar (all disc):
  • Cannondale SuperSix Evo Ultegra and 105
  • Cannondale SuperSix Evo Hi-Mod Ultegra DI2
  • Specialized SL6 Comp Disc Ultegra
  • Cervélo R3 Disc (Ultegra)
  • BMC RoadMachine 02 Disc Two (this is more an endurance bike though)
I was surprised that all these bikes didn't feel as responsive and stiff as BMC TeamMachine SLR did. The SuperSix Evo Hi-Mod, Specialized SL6 and Cervélo were pretty good rides.

I also tried these full blown aero bikes (but aero bikes are really not my thing):
  • Orbea Orca Aero (felt awesome)
  • Cannondale SystemSix (felt too nervous and too heavy)
  • BMC TimeMachine Road (super fast but again, not really my type of bike)

Swedius
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by Swedius

Pukutis wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:10 pm
I am after the slr01 four, do you know the real weight? I found the color in blue very beatiful
I think it was 7,75 kg in 54 (no pedals of course).

Pukutis
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by Pukutis

Swedius wrote:
Pukutis wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:10 pm
I am after the slr01 four, do you know the real weight? I found the color in blue very beatiful
I think it was 7,75 kg in 54 (no pedals of course).
Thanks, interesting. BMC advertises 7,29


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Swedius
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by Swedius

Swedius wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:09 pm
Also tried SLR One and it's a stunning ride as well. Even though the bike weight is 7,99 kg (54) instead of advertised 7,7.
I get different weights every time depending on how I weight the bike. Lowest so far is 7.74 kg but mostly I get 7.9x kg.

Swedius
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by Swedius

LukiP wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:22 pm
Do you have any info about that CRD 351 wheels?
They feel very comfortable. I'll try and find an email address to get info on the weight. I'll change tubes and tyres soon and then I'll be able to weight the wheelset myself.

Swedius
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by Swedius

I used a home made solution including a towel and a hook to get the weight without the hook touching anything else. 7.99 kg for a size M TeamMachine SLR One (Force Etap). 299 grams more than advertised.

Swedius
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by Swedius

Some front part weights for the SLR version (without full cockpit integration):

Stem: 150g (100mm)
Stem bolts & top cap: 25gm
Stem spacer 30mm: 38gm
Stem spacer 5mm: 10gm
Stem spacer module 10mm: 9gm

My stem + spacer combination (5mm spacer + 3 x 10mm spacer modules): 211gm!

Garmin mount incl bolt, nut & holder: 16gm
Garmin mount + GoPro mount incl bolt, nut & holder: 18gm

This is pretty heavy stuff but also modular and seems to work well. I will switch to a lightweight aero bar in the future for sure.

Swedius
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by Swedius

Regarding the CRD351 wheelset:

I stripped the wheelset down to only wheel+rotor for front and wheel+rotor+cassette for rear.

Official SRAM SLX-R 160mm rotor weight is 131 grams.
Official SRAM XG-1270 cassette weight is 223 grams (10-26). Mine however is 10-33 and it's supposed to be 267 grams.

That leaves the wheelset weight incl tubeless tape as 1638 grams.

I measured inner width as 17mm and outer as 22-23mm maybe, so pretty narrow wheels.

Scarpa
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by Scarpa

So the integrated stem alone hast 175g wright? Is there any one out there who know any lighter integrated stem?


Swedius wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:25 pm
Some front part weights for the SLR version (without full cockpit integration):

Stem: 150g (100mm)
Stem bolts & top cap: 25gm
Stem spacer 30mm: 38gm
Stem spacer 5mm: 10gm
Stem spacer module 10mm: 9gm

My stem + spacer combination (5mm spacer + 3 x 10mm spacer modules): 211gm!

Garmin mount incl bolt, nut & holder: 16gm
Garmin mount + GoPro mount incl bolt, nut & holder: 18gm

This is pretty heavy stuff but also modular and seems to work well. I will switch to a lightweight aero bar in the future for sure.

spdntrxi
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by spdntrxi

Scarpa wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:24 pm
So the integrated stem alone hast 175g wright? Is there any one out there who know any lighter integrated stem?



even if there was you might not be able to use it.. because it's it's anything like my timemachine stem (which is 230g BTW @ 110mm) they have these little space blocks that are placed on the steerer tube that match the shape.
2019 BMC TM01 Road UCI config 7.36kg

Swedius
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by Swedius

-- repost, my mistake --

Boombang
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by Boombang

I read on the Cycling Weekly website that 'I was impressed by the simplicity of the braze-on rear mech attachment.'

By braze-on rear mech do they mean it as I read it - that the hanger is permanently attached to the frame?

Ettore
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by Ettore

Boombang wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:17 pm
I read on the Cycling Weekly website that 'I was impressed by the simplicity of the braze-on rear mech attachment.'

By braze-on rear mech do they mean it as I read it - that the hanger is permanently attached to the frame?
Yeah no, it's not. It's detachable with a 3mm allen key.

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Boombang
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by Boombang

Thanks for clearing up as that would have been a deal breaker. What a dumb thing for Cycling Weekly to say!

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