2021 Trek Madone

[sigma]

the madone design has failed. too heavy,questionable use of the adjustable ISOSPEED and no perceivable aero advantage against the TARMAC SL7,FILANTE,DOGMA etc.

back to the drawing board.

Don't tell that to Mads Pedersen...

[FlatlandClimber]

*no perceivable aero advantage* - you rode all of them or you just looked at the numbers of one southern German cycling magazine and went from there with your statement?

[spud]

^ in all fairness, subjective conclusions about aero are pretty worthless. No way can you reliably tell me one aero bike is faster than another, based on feel. You need a controlled environment like an indoor velodrome, back to back tests etc. Who has time for that?

[FlatlandClimber]

An just like feel isn't accurate, so the test of tour mag has its issues.
The Madone of Mads Pedersen they tested was a size larger (58) than normal bikes they test (56), had a non standard cockpit (much rounder) and weird 28c tires with profile. The fact that it scored 216W on the test still is rather impressive, considering how many factors were speaking against it to perform well.

Also, low single digit watts more or less shouldn't make a bike *failed*.
The culture of discussion here is a tad ridiculous at times...

[gwilson]

Also the Madone is much more comfortable/compliant than any other aero bike I've ever riden. Being aero is great, but having the bike actually enjoyable to ride makes it much more useful to me. I've spent a lot of time on a SystemSix as well, and would gladly give up 5 watts in aero drag for a significantly more comfortable and enjoyable ride.

[TobinHatesYou]

Has anyone ever seen a mythical 47cm 2021 Madone SLR? The 50cm frames already look ridiculous...

[cajer]

I have a 50cm and I think it looks pretty good. But I also really like small bikes. I have a 51cm s5 disc and wish I had the 48cm.

If the seat post doesn't start at tire level it feels too big!

[FlatlandClimber]

Some bikes just don't work under a certain size. Ronald Kuba's new Shiv TT in XS looks awful too. All other sizes have a straight horizontal top tube, but this one now has a bend in it. Trek bikes work best in size 56 and 58 IMO.

[sigma]

Also the Madone is much more comfortable/compliant than any other aero bike I've ever riden. Being aero is great, but having the bike actually enjoyable to ride makes it much more useful to me. I've spent a lot of time on a SystemSix as well, and would gladly give up 5 watts in aero drag for a significantly more comfortable and enjoyable ride.

This is something Cancellara made clear when they designed the Domane. Get me close to the finish line feeling less beat up and fresher and I will have better legs for the final kicks. Honestly, for me, unless you are riding silky smooth roads all the time, it's one of the most overlooked aspects of any bike buying decision. The Domane was a game changer for me on crap pot-hole ridden roads and my Cervelo S series, undoubtedly more aero and "faster", were replaced in favor of a compliant alternative.

[Stitchking]

the madone design has failed. too heavy,questionable use of the adjustable ISOSPEED and no perceivable aero advantage against the TARMAC SL7,FILANTE,DOGMA etc.

back to the drawing board.

Don't tell that to Mads Pedersen...

Cc: Jasper Stuyven

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[FlatlandClimber]

Trek really had an awful weekend. Bad engineering!

[ODC]

Trek really had an awful weekend. Bad engineering!

Don't forget SRAM (for the haters).

[kerio]

Would you order 2022 Madone SLR with 12sp Di2 now (considering it was released 2+ years ago) or choose something else?

[FIJIGabe]

If I were in the market? Yeah, I'd pull the trigger and order it. It just got new components and was refreshed not too long ago. I'd expect the Domane to get updated before the Madone.

[spartan]

i would not buy the madone/domane . they have a fundamental flaw in the iso speed cluster. they issued a service bulletin to all the dealers.

Retailer bulletin
Madone and Domane IsoSpeed bolt and nut loosening

i luv the last part of the txt. lol.

What Trek is doing
Trek is investigating design changes for future production.