Cannondale Supersix Evo HM 2018 vs 2020

Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.
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andyJC
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by andyJC

Hi
Building up a 2020 disc Evo HM to replace my 2018 rim brake Evo HM.

2018 model has a Dura Ace groupset , Zipp 202’s , Enve stem and bars, Fizik Antares R3 Seat , cannondale SAVE carbon seat post and GP 4000’s
Weighs 6.9kg with bottle cages and wahoo bracket.
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For the new build. I’m keeping most of the parts and adding Enve 5.6 disc wheels, with dura ace shifters, rotors and callipers. Also changing the seat and potentially adding a PM.

Like a few on this forum, I really don’t like the cannondale paint jobs, so used Ali at Fatcreations to repaint.

Open questions -
I’m trying to decide between power crank or pedals. Any thoughts?

Also for the new saddle - considering the S works power arc and the pro stealth carbon rail .
Should any others be on my list to consider?

Thanks in advance for your help!

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andyJC
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by andyJC

Here’s the frame getting the fatcreations treatment...
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andyJC
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by andyJC

Frame weight is now 860 and the forks 390

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Dan Gerous
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by Dan Gerous

Oooooh so that's yours! I was really curious to see the whole frame when I saw the super nice fork details he posted. Very nice!

Another saddle option in the snub-nose trend is the Prologo Dimension, I've been toying with it last summer, not yet decided if I'll keep that. I really like it when riding hard in the drops or just very low and forward, but not so much when I ride more casually and upright. I think overall I still prefer my Fizik Antares 00 but might play with it's position/angle a little more. Personally, I think the nose is too wide on the Pro Stealth apart from when you sit way forward on the front, the Dimension (and Power) are narrower in the nose which I find better... but that might depend on your physiology, always tricky to advise on saddles...

I'm ditching powermeters on my next Evo so I'll let someone else chime in on that!

andyJC
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by andyJC

Many thanks indeed - will have a look at the prologo. I'm a little concerned about the longer rides, so would be good to hear some other opinions too!

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Dan Gerous
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I've done many 8, 9, 10 hours rides with the Antares and never was annoyed, tired or even thinking of it, different story with the Dimension on which I have to think where to sit on it to be confortable... maybe it's just me.

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by Hexsense

If you have no pedal preference, Sram Red B30 crank with integrated spider + Praxis rings should weight 500g +-20 (crank w spider, spindle, chainrings).
It fit pf30a by removing the preload adjuster on the left crank arm and use wavy washer instead.
Favero Assioma weight the same as 105 pedals ( 60g heavier than Dura-ace).

That'd weight less than nearly all power meter combo. S-works power crank weight 440g without rings, when you add chainrings then it's at least 560g. You'll need a pedal that weight less than dura-ace pedals to weight less than combo above (not that it's hard to find, Time and Speedplay should handily weight less than Dura-ace pedals).

add to saddle list: Selle Italia SP-01 Boost, Selle Italia SLR Boost, Pro Aerofuel.

andyJC
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by andyJC

thanks so much for the info.

I do like the ability to swap pedals between bikes, so looking more likely to go down that route...

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by andyJC

@dan gerous - the site wont let me reply to your message, as Im a new member. But the answer is yes, no worries.

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C36
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andyJC wrote:Frame weight is now 860 and the forks 390
Saw the frame on their Instagram, loved the fork! Sure some pictures under sun light would be great!
Did you weight the frame before sending them? From previous discussion with them, they usually save quite some weight since the industrial frame may receive quite an excess of paint.


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andyJC
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by andyJC

C36 wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:31 am
andyJC wrote:Frame weight is now 860 and the forks 390
Saw the frame on their Instagram, loved the fork! Sure some pictures under sun light would be great!
Did you weight the frame before sending them? From previous discussion with them, they usually save quite some weight since the industrial frame may receive quite an excess of paint.


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Thanks! Forks were the fun bit! We tried to create something that wasn't too bling (hence inside of the forks only). We'll see when the bike is built up.

Unfortunately, I didn't weight before. One of the other members who inspired me to go down the new paint route (alex) saved about 30g on his SS.

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by andyJC

Bike is now built up and the weight is coming in at 7.5kgs.

I'm now looking at reducing weight where I can & realistically, these are the parts where i can change things in the short term:

Saddle, BB, thru axels, tyres (tubeless), crankset

All ideas and advice greatly received...

Unfortunately, didn't weigh everything, but most of it is here:

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