Farsports F1 Integrated Handlebar/Stem
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Based on the image above from a previous reply, the bars are supplied with two shims (+/- 6 & +/- 10 degrees) that alter the angle of the bars once installed on the steerer tube.
- Michael
"People should stop expecting normal from me... seriously, we all know it's never going to happen"
"People should stop expecting normal from me... seriously, we all know it's never going to happen"
The bar is -10 and the shim gives you -12/-10/-8deg. For 100 or 110mm stem that gives you another 7mm drop to play with or to play with the bar angle for better confort.
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The shims... mentioned above.Emmodd wrote:@backdoor how do you adjust the angle of the stem?
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I did get a tracking number from Farsports. They have been super communicative (Maybe overly is the better word choice)
The initial tracking number was missing a digit and they resent the correct number within 12 hours.
It is coming via EMS which is really not even a true shipping company but a servcie that uses a collection of mail services for shipping world wide. But it's pretty much a cheap way to send 3rd class mail internationally.
Tracking shows it left the airport in Xiamen on the 25th. No other updates at this point....
Through the Valleys and over the Mountains...
2013 Ridley Helium - 6.9Kg
2017 Blue ProSecco - 9.0Kg
2018 Ridley Noah SL - 7.85Kg
2013 Ridley Helium - 6.9Kg
2017 Blue ProSecco - 9.0Kg
2018 Ridley Noah SL - 7.85Kg
At the beginning of the year, EMS shipping was a good choice for international shipping because the service was able to leverage multiple daily international passenger flights for small batch shipping with transit times often measured in days. Unfortunately since the onset of the global pandemic, with the severe reduction of international air travel, EMS service transit times have increased and should no longer be gauged in terms of days!
- Michael
"People should stop expecting normal from me... seriously, we all know it's never going to happen"
"People should stop expecting normal from me... seriously, we all know it's never going to happen"
Suprisingly Quick, the handlebars came in yesterday. Only 16 days after I ordered them which was pretty quick.
Ordered on Dec 20th
Shipped on Dec 23rd
Delivered on Jan 5th
Outside Box Inside Box The Bars! These bars are pretty sweet. They have a nice smooth finish, very pro.
The stripe down the front is a muted gray and there is another nice detailed muted gray strip across the front with the Farsports logo. The garmin mount comes pre-mounted. It seems that they use some type of glue on the back of the mount to increase the strength of the mount for the tiny screws holding it into the handlebars. One thing I have noticed with each iteration of these bars is that they have changed the location and shape of the cable exit holes near the stem. This latest version has 2 seperate small holes that open right before the steerer. I think I would prefer a single larger hole as it would be easier to deal with routing cables. I may ultimately end up putting a hole in the steerer to route cables through the bar into the steerer tube if I can get a hold of a Ridley Noah D-Shaped aero fork.
Ordered on Dec 20th
Shipped on Dec 23rd
Delivered on Jan 5th
Outside Box Inside Box The Bars! These bars are pretty sweet. They have a nice smooth finish, very pro.
The stripe down the front is a muted gray and there is another nice detailed muted gray strip across the front with the Farsports logo. The garmin mount comes pre-mounted. It seems that they use some type of glue on the back of the mount to increase the strength of the mount for the tiny screws holding it into the handlebars. One thing I have noticed with each iteration of these bars is that they have changed the location and shape of the cable exit holes near the stem. This latest version has 2 seperate small holes that open right before the steerer. I think I would prefer a single larger hole as it would be easier to deal with routing cables. I may ultimately end up putting a hole in the steerer to route cables through the bar into the steerer tube if I can get a hold of a Ridley Noah D-Shaped aero fork.
Through the Valleys and over the Mountains...
2013 Ridley Helium - 6.9Kg
2017 Blue ProSecco - 9.0Kg
2018 Ridley Noah SL - 7.85Kg
2013 Ridley Helium - 6.9Kg
2017 Blue ProSecco - 9.0Kg
2018 Ridley Noah SL - 7.85Kg
The story is that the design of these bars was influenced by the wing shape of the German WWII fighter TA152-H.
You can decide for yourself -
Measurements - These are all taken from this 400mm x 120mm bar -
Bar Width (400mm bars) -
400mm from center to center at the hoods 420mm from center to center at the drops
440mm from outside to outside at the drops Stem Depth (120mm bars) -
130mm from center of steerer to center of bars 115mm from front of steerer to center of bars 170mm entire length of stem from front to back Reach -
60mm center to center Drop -
120mm center to center 140mm top to bottom Flare - There looks to be about 2 degrees of flare although this angle is "rotated" out at the drops as typical with traditional bars and not "flared" out from the hoods like is more typical of modern/gravel bars.
You can decide for yourself -
Measurements - These are all taken from this 400mm x 120mm bar -
Bar Width (400mm bars) -
400mm from center to center at the hoods 420mm from center to center at the drops
440mm from outside to outside at the drops Stem Depth (120mm bars) -
130mm from center of steerer to center of bars 115mm from front of steerer to center of bars 170mm entire length of stem from front to back Reach -
60mm center to center Drop -
120mm center to center 140mm top to bottom Flare - There looks to be about 2 degrees of flare although this angle is "rotated" out at the drops as typical with traditional bars and not "flared" out from the hoods like is more typical of modern/gravel bars.
Through the Valleys and over the Mountains...
2013 Ridley Helium - 6.9Kg
2017 Blue ProSecco - 9.0Kg
2018 Ridley Noah SL - 7.85Kg
2013 Ridley Helium - 6.9Kg
2017 Blue ProSecco - 9.0Kg
2018 Ridley Noah SL - 7.85Kg
Some nice stats & measures there But you obviously forgot to weigh them
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hmm, so what supposed to be 70mm reach bar with 120mm stem.
turns out to be 60mm reach bar with 130mm stem huh?
The end result in reach at the hood is the same, but I'm not sure I'd like the top that move 1cm farther forward. I actually like flat winged bar that extend back. My arms rest more balanced when the bar support mid part of my arm closer to elbow than if the support is moved toward the wrist.
Shouldn't matter. The top wing doesn't "look" deep enough and grippy enough to rest my arms on top of it anyway.
turns out to be 60mm reach bar with 130mm stem huh?
The end result in reach at the hood is the same, but I'm not sure I'd like the top that move 1cm farther forward. I actually like flat winged bar that extend back. My arms rest more balanced when the bar support mid part of my arm closer to elbow than if the support is moved toward the wrist.
Shouldn't matter. The top wing doesn't "look" deep enough and grippy enough to rest my arms on top of it anyway.
- Patience my friend.... still working on this Can only upload 10 pics at a time.
The OD1 Spacer pack is a collection of the base headset cover a 5mm spacer and a 10mm spacer for a 1.025" steerer (OD2 is for a 1.25" steerer). Also included in the kit is a 1.25" alloy headset cap.
This is the "headset cover" looks like a generic 3d printed headset cap. It does have a little flare on the back bottom side. I may have to sand the nbottom of this to get it to sit flush on the Noah but your miles may vary -
These bars are made for a 1.25" steerer and most bikes today and pre-2020 are made with 1.025" steerer so the bars come with adapter sleeves to take up the .025" of space. Test fitting they were perfect. Nice and tight without too much force to get the bars to slide over them while on the steerer tube. I am sure there are variances with steerer tubes so again YMMV.
The gray stripe is begging for some love in the graphics department. I'm going to play around with some waterslide decals and see what i can come up with. it'll be a fun way to change up the overall look.
Stiffness - These bars are super stiff. Ridiculously so. I have a pair of Metron 4D's on my Helium and those are said to be the stiffest in thier class and I can flex those a little with some weight on them. They have a little but of spring. These F1's have hardly any flex at all.
Weight - And of course the thing you have all been waiting for. Sadly these bars came in a little piggish for the size @ 393 grams. Was hoping they would be in the 350-360g range with the garmin mount. Glad to answer any questions and if you need me to take any other pictures of the bars, just let me know what you are looking for. It'll be a couple weeks before I have time to mount them up on the build.
Last edited by backdoor on Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:08 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Through the Valleys and over the Mountains...
2013 Ridley Helium - 6.9Kg
2017 Blue ProSecco - 9.0Kg
2018 Ridley Noah SL - 7.85Kg
2013 Ridley Helium - 6.9Kg
2017 Blue ProSecco - 9.0Kg
2018 Ridley Noah SL - 7.85Kg
Yeah the measurements are interesting on these for sure. I do like the short reach but wish the stem was closer to 120 then 130 c2c.
Its not deep compared to some of the other bars on the market. Certainly don't seem to be designed for the "aero" position on a road bike.Hexsense wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:24 pmThe end result in reach at the hood is the same, but I'm not sure I'd like the top that move 1cm farther forward. I actually like flat winged bar that extend back. My arms rest more balanced when the bar support mid part of my arm closer to elbow than if the support is moved toward the wrist.
Shouldn't matter. The top wing doesn't "look" deep enough and grippy enough to rest my arms on top of it anyway.
I do like the the swept back front though as it naturally brings my elbows in closer to my body if you grip over the front of the bar. As opposed to the Metron 5D's that have the forward sweep and keep your elbows out to the sides.
Through the Valleys and over the Mountains...
2013 Ridley Helium - 6.9Kg
2017 Blue ProSecco - 9.0Kg
2018 Ridley Noah SL - 7.85Kg
2013 Ridley Helium - 6.9Kg
2017 Blue ProSecco - 9.0Kg
2018 Ridley Noah SL - 7.85Kg
From the recent reports the 380-390g seem to be in the new ballpark territory, so I suspect Farsports have made a running change, and all the bars are actually heavier now.
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I have these things in hand waiting for my build. They seem like a great deal after getting my sweaty hands on them. I had questions/concerns and Farsports was fast to respond and provide details. I have also been very pleased with my Farsport Wheels.
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@backdoor thanks for pics and review.
I was wondering if I could mount it on my Ridley Noah Fast Disc with mechanical Campagnolo 12 speed.
Cables are all inside the 4za integrated bar, I would consider to buy it only if I could hold the same setup up.
Cheers.
I was wondering if I could mount it on my Ridley Noah Fast Disc with mechanical Campagnolo 12 speed.
Cables are all inside the 4za integrated bar, I would consider to buy it only if I could hold the same setup up.
Cheers.