lightest chain now?

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Boshk
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by Boshk

Anyone have an update of the lightest chain out there now?

Is it still that PYC SP1101 @227g (116 links) or the new Super record 12 chain @220g (110links)?
(not quite sure how Campy would run on a 11spd though)

Most of the ones below are based on 114 links from what I can find online
Record 11 @239g
DA HG901 @247g
KMC DLC @231g (110 links)
KMC X11 SL @237g
KMC X11 EL @239g

alcatraz
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by alcatraz

There is a titanium chain @ nearly 200gr. I forgot if it was PYC.

Edit: It's called YBN SLA-211

by Weenie


KCookie
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by KCookie

My lightest PYC chain so far was 229.2g for 116 links, cut to 108 was 214.1g. I have still to weigh another two PYC chains and waiting on delivery for two KMC.

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vertex19
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by vertex19

I'm using KMC DLC :D There are advantages not only in weight but also in color.

dlj2119
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by dlj2119

TIPSUM X11SL 11-speed on ebay $28, 118 links reported at 230g. No experience with it though.

1415chris
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by 1415chris

My silver PYC 107+1 out of the box, with sticky manufacturer lube was 219g spot on. I can imagine after degreasing and applying light lube the weight would go down by couple of grams.
Yaban have been making Ti chanis for years. Before 11s era it was the lightest chain out there. But its creazy price is a bit prohibitive. You can get around 5 silver PYCs fot one Ti Yaban.

Super Rercord 210g for 110 lilnks? Maybe if it is weighted on Mt Everest. Ok it has hollow pins, but forget that the chain with solid (not hollow) plates, internal and exteranl can be so light. And no it is not Ti chain.

Now I am waiting for deliver of PYC dlc black. Surely it will not be lighter than silver version, I am more interested in its coating quality.

EDIT

Tipsum, if you look at the plates in the zoom, it says PYC.

alanyu
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by alanyu

1415chris wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:16 pm

Super Rercord 210g for 110 lilnks? Maybe if it is weighted on Mt Everest. Ok it has hollow pins, but forget that the chain with solid (not hollow) plates, internal and exteranl can be so light. And no it is not Ti chain.
Record 12 sp chain should be 220g for 110 links. I think it's OP's misstyping.

1415chris
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by 1415chris

Even 220g for 110 links is still on very optymistic side. It is just tad narrower compared to 11s. Have a look at PYC mentioned above, KMC sl series, Yaban sl 110 all of them apart hollow pins have hollow plates. There is no way that a chain with solid plates can weigth the same as fully hollow chains (pins and plates) even they are 11s.
Surely there is much more weight to be saved from hollow plates than from a bit shorter pins, in the case of 12s.

alanyu
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by alanyu

1415chris wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:21 pm
Even 220g for 110 links is still on very optymistic side. It is just tad narrower compared to 11s. Have a look at PYC mentioned above, KMC sl series, Yaban sl 110 all of them apart hollow pins have hollow plates. There is no way that a chain with solid plates can weigth the same as fully hollow chains (pins and plates) even they are 11s.
Surely there is much more weight to be saved from hollow plates than from a bit shorter pins, in the case of 12s.
Why not?
Record 12s chain is 5.15mm width instead of 5.5mm of record 11s or 5.6mm of shimano/KMC 11s chain.

For 11 spd, 5.5mm instead of 5.6mm is the reason why record chain is only 236g with solid plates (weight on scale by r2-bike), while KMC X11 SL TiN with both hollow pins and hollow plates is the same weight.
For 12 spd, campagnolo reduces the width by 6.4%, thus shaving down around 16g is normal.

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by ooo

What will be lightest chromed bike chain?
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1415chris
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by 1415chris

@alanyu
You may be on something here :)
For some reasons I thought Record 11s is above 230g for 107+1.
I should have known better, have just put it on the scale (light lube R&R Gold):

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TobinHatesYou
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by TobinHatesYou

Both YBN and KMC X11SL chains are 5.5mm at the pins according to my calipers. Only Wippermann, Shimano and SRAM 11spd chains are 5.62mm.

Boshk
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by Boshk

Thanks! using KMC X11 EL at the moment with di2, stuff is new still but its pretty darn quiet.
I'll check out the PYC, maybe I'll try that if I go after the weigh saving, I can always go back to KMC since the X11EL are 'reuseable' quick links.

dereksmalls
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by dereksmalls

So a 12 speed SR chain will work on 11 speed SR fine you reckon?

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