Weight Weenies

Paddypurplepuss wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:31 pm

Hey those DTs are gorgeous looking wheels. Did you go for the rim or disc brake version? Can you say why the rim version are heavier than the disc - usually its the other way round right?

lambroskol wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:03 pm

Hello,

I have an S-works tarmac 2019 rim brake with ultegra Di2. I am doing Brevets mostly 200 km but last year i finished one 600 km and i am planning to go to some Brevets this year.

I live in greece and most of the Brevets include climping from 2000m to 4000m every 200km, also the weather is a bit hot here thats why i am a bit worried to buy carbon wheels.

My budget is max 2000 euros for wheels and I m thinking to buy a good aluminum wheel like

Fulcrum Racing Zero Competizione or the same from Campagnolo shamal ultra

or to give up my fears about braking and go for a Carbon wheel.

Thank you in advance for your help.

Mr.Gib wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:13 pm

lambroskol wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:03 pm

Hello,

I have an S-works tarmac 2019 rim brake with ultegra Di2. I am doing Brevets mostly 200 km but last year i finished one 600 km and i am planning to go to some Brevets this year.

I live in greece and most of the Brevets include climping from 2000m to 4000m every 200km, also the weather is a bit hot here thats why i am a bit worried to buy carbon wheels.

My budget is max 2000 euros for wheels and I m thinking to buy a good aluminum wheel like

Fulcrum Racing Zero Competizione or the same from Campagnolo shamal ultra

or to give up my fears about braking and go for a Carbon wheel.

Thank you in advance for your help.

If the descending demands a lot of braking, I think carbon for rim brakes is a mistake. If you were racing on closed roads, and centimeters mattered, sure, go with carbon. But for more recreational types of riding, particularely of the extreme sort, what take any extra risk? Tubeless Shamal Ultra will be hard to beat - super strong wheels. My only complaint is that I'd prefer the internal rim width was a mm or two wider.

Mr.Gib wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:13 pm

lambroskol wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:03 pm

Hello,

I have an S-works tarmac 2019 rim brake with ultegra Di2. I am doing Brevets mostly 200 km but last year i finished one 600 km and i am planning to go to some Brevets this year.

I live in greece and most of the Brevets include climping from 2000m to 4000m every 200km, also the weather is a bit hot here thats why i am a bit worried to buy carbon wheels.

My budget is max 2000 euros for wheels and I m thinking to buy a good aluminum wheel like

Fulcrum Racing Zero Competizione or the same from Campagnolo shamal ultra

or to give up my fears about braking and go for a Carbon wheel.

Thank you in advance for your help.

If the descending demands a lot of braking, I think carbon for rim brakes is a mistake. If you were racing on closed roads, and centimeters mattered, sure, go with carbon. But for more recreational types of riding, particularely of the extreme sort, what take any extra risk? Tubeless Shamal Ultra will be hard to beat - super strong wheels. My only complaint is that I'd prefer the internal rim width was a mm or two wider.

lambroskol wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:00 am

LewisK thank you for the reply.

I am about to order Racing zero competizione on Racing Zero Nite. I prefer the look of the Nite but I am worried how long the braking coating will last.
From your experience does it last for long?

fortrog wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:48 pm

Paddypurplepuss - first test ride on the DTs and I am very, very pleased. 35 mi and 2,600 ft of climbing, with rolling hills, straightaways, and a couple longer climbs in the mix made for a great debut route. Definitely a big change from the 404s - I can notice some aero/free speed loss on the long flat segments, but when climbing they feel so much faster/more responsive/stiffer and loads more predictable while descending. For the first time in a long time I wasn't flinching coming around corners at the idea of a terrifying canyon crosswind. I think these wheels will really shine during climbs when it gets into the 8%+ gradients. Only one ride in, but definitely feeling like I made the right decision switching from the zipps.

StevenH72 wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:11 pm

So, I've gone through a similar decision. I just love wheels. I currently ride a set of Enve 3.4SES Gen 2 for summer and some A-Force AL33's for winter, both laced to Tune Mig70/Mag170 hubs with CX-Ray spokes.

The Enve's come in at 1420g (with rim tape) and the A-Force at 1,475g. I run both tubeless on Schwalbe Pro Ones.

I fancied a lighter set, not because I think I'll gain any great performance benefits, I just like geeking out on wheels.

For reference, I am 80kg at the moment and will float between 75-77kg through summer. Next year I am attempting the Cingles du Mont Ventoux, so my "climbing" set is really for that.

I was trying to decide between Schmolke TLO45s and Hunt 36 UD Carbon Spoke and ended up going down the Hunt route.

I doubt the Hunts will actually come in at 1,295g, but that is where I ended up going. Not being a traditional grimpeur, physique wise, I liked the stiffness offering of the Hunt's and even at low 1300g's it is a crazy light set.

I had an email from Hunt yesterday saying that my set is due for delivery in November Wk2, so hopefully I will have them soon. I'll update once I have received them. I think they look like a great wheelset and the ceramicspeed bearings is just a bonus. Great value imho