2020 Specialized Tarmac SL7

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pmprego
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by pmprego

FlatlandClimber wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:23 pm
Weird how frame and full bike are branded differently.
€10,000 difference between frame and full bike is also pretty laughable.
€2300 for the wheels
€3000 for a groupset
€1000 for a saddle, handlebar, tape, tires, BB, tubes (which would be super high).

Leaves you with over €3500 for the the fact that you get a little paint on wheels, saddle and bar tape...
For that type of difference they should go all-in in the ceremic bearings department, move to dtswiss 180 hubs, bb (this one checks), rear derailleur... The whole package.

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jencvo
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by jencvo

pmprego wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:54 pm
FlatlandClimber wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:23 pm
Weird how frame and full bike are branded differently.
€10,000 difference between frame and full bike is also pretty laughable.
€2300 for the wheels
€3000 for a groupset
€1000 for a saddle, handlebar, tape, tires, BB, tubes (which would be super high).

Leaves you with over €3500 for the the fact that you get a little paint on wheels, saddle and bar tape...
For that type of difference they should go all-in in the ceremic bearings department, move to dtswiss 180 hubs, bb (this one checks), rear derailleur... The whole package.
Maybe it comes with a home mechanic at this price point.

surfinguru
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by surfinguru

Love, love, love that new red/black fade combo. The speed of light one is pretty cool too, but DAMN the pricing is just stupid effing crazy. We bought our kid a brand new Corolla, with less than 5miles, out the door for just over $15k. That thing should run for ~200,000 miles.

Guess I'll be riding my 2014 Tarmac Pro until the cabon delaminates because there is just no way I'm paying that much for a bike!
2014 Tarmac Pro -eTap Red

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tortor
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by tortor

S-works frameset is not branded S-works but specialized like an expertor a pro. Complete bike is branded S-work. Error or intentional difference ?

niklasp
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by niklasp

jencvo wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:03 pm
pmprego wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:54 pm
FlatlandClimber wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:23 pm
Weird how frame and full bike are branded differently.
€10,000 difference between frame and full bike is also pretty laughable.
€2300 for the wheels
€3000 for a groupset
€1000 for a saddle, handlebar, tape, tires, BB, tubes (which would be super high).

Leaves you with over €3500 for the the fact that you get a little paint on wheels, saddle and bar tape...
For that type of difference they should go all-in in the ceremic bearings department, move to dtswiss 180 hubs, bb (this one checks), rear derailleur... The whole package.
Maybe it comes with a home mechanic at this price point.
No one buys one for retail price so a 3500usd discount seems pretty legit, then it's break even 🤝

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Ritsuke
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by Ritsuke

Holy crap, the frameset is beautiful! :shock:
Road // 2023 S-Works Tarmac SL8 | Shimano Dura-Ace Di2 | Roval Rapide CLX
Gravel // 2023 Specialized Crux Pro | SRAM Force AXS | Roval Terra CL
Retired // 2022 S-Works Shiv TT // 2021 S-Works Tarmac SL7 // 2019 Specialized Allez Sprint Red Hook

Knightyboy27
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by Knightyboy27

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Nice to see that Cav finally had his custom bike for the Roeselare criterium (not sure why the BikeRadar page is no longer working)

BigBoyND
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by BigBoyND

niklasp wrote:
Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:50 am
jencvo wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:03 pm
pmprego wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:54 pm
FlatlandClimber wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:23 pm
Weird how frame and full bike are branded differently.
€10,000 difference between frame and full bike is also pretty laughable.
€2300 for the wheels
€3000 for a groupset
€1000 for a saddle, handlebar, tape, tires, BB, tubes (which would be super high).

Leaves you with over €3500 for the the fact that you get a little paint on wheels, saddle and bar tape...
For that type of difference they should go all-in in the ceremic bearings department, move to dtswiss 180 hubs, bb (this one checks), rear derailleur... The whole package.
Maybe it comes with a home mechanic at this price point.
No one buys one for retail price so a 3500usd discount seems pretty legit, then it's break even 🤝
Do people get that much discount on a full build from Specialized? In my region they never have sales unless the next gen is released. And if no one pays retail for the bike in your region, I'd assume the same holds true for the frame.

I find it easier to find discounts on components than framesets, so that 3.5k difference in price would be even greater. And that's before factoring in the fact that a stock bike rarely if ever includes the buyer's preferred handlebar width, stem length, saddle, tires, and possibly also crank length, chain ring size, cassette... If they charge more than retail for all the parts on a full build, it really should be fully custom.

But seriously. These frame prices are insane. And then the build prices are just dumb.

MRM
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by MRM

The price hike is probably down to the wheels, saddle, stem etc. not being standard, but rather gaving the fade as well or a logo (stem). Not sure it's worth the extra price, but it's probably down to that. 😉

woodyvalentine
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by woodyvalentine

New Pro one piece bar stem on Tarmac on FJ's bike. More action in this thread than the 2021 pro bike gear one.
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Wadl
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by Wadl

woodyvalentine wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:59 am
New Pro one piece bar stem on Tarmac on FJ's bike. More action in this thread than the 2021 pro bike gear one.
Wow.. that seems nice.. do you have more info on that ? :)

woodyvalentine
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by woodyvalentine

No. Just found on Twitter.

pmprego
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by pmprego

woodyvalentine wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:34 pm
No. Just found on Twitter.
The way it's wrapped is interesting. Just to the hoods and the seems to have a glued strip of something.

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Looks very clean from the front too, looks like its has some flare
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Wadl
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by Wadl

ok, now I want that bar !!!

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