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Even then I would choose the 1.3w difference and just take gp5000 tls. Changing a wheel will probably take longer than the difference between a pure TT tire and a gp5000.TobinHatesYou wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:03 pmI wouldn't even use it in a mass start race because the risk vs reward just doesn't add up in my favor. In a TT where every second counts is where the Corsa Speed or Pro One TT makes sense.
icantaffordcycling wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:01 amEven then I would choose the 1.3w difference and just take gp5000 tls. Changing a wheel will probably take longer than the difference between a pure TT tire and a gp5000.TobinHatesYou wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:03 pmI wouldn't even use it in a mass start race because the risk vs reward just doesn't add up in my favor. In a TT where every second counts is where the Corsa Speed or Pro One TT makes sense.
I immediately noticed how fast the Pro one’s were at speed compared to the GP5000 TL’s I was running. It felt like I had an extra gear over 20mph. They have a better feel on the road too with rough roads being more muted. They are not as good on bigger bumps though. The Pro one’s are taller and narrower with slightly less air volume in 28.akafinto wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:58 pmLooks like there's some aero data on the 2020 Pro One here:
https://www.parcours.cc/blogs/news/tyre ... generation
Interesting to see it's the most aero option tested. May have to get hold of some now!
It's the 'souplesse' Schwalbe was using in their marketing spiel!Alexbn921 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:37 pmI immediately noticed how fast the Pro one’s were at speed compared to the GP5000 TL’s I was running. It felt like I had an extra gear over 20mph. They have a better feel on the road too with rough roads being more muted. They are not as good on bigger bumps though. The Pro one’s are taller and narrower with slightly less air volume in 28.akafinto wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:58 pmLooks like there's some aero data on the 2020 Pro One here:
https://www.parcours.cc/blogs/news/tyre ... generation
Interesting to see it's the most aero option tested. May have to get hold of some now!
The GP5000 TL feel faster up to about 10-15mph. They just roll with what feels like no resistance. While both are great tires the edge in grip and ability to make corrections mid corner goes to the Pro one. They inspire more confidence and out right grip seems higher. I’m able to hold a tighter line in 40mph flat out corners.
The best setup might be a GP5000 on the back and a pro one on the front. When I wear out my rear tire I’m going to try out this combo.
Sounds good to me, that plus the Schwalbe much lower weight sounds like it will be my next tires... Although I'll be curious about the new Michelin Power Road Tubeless which are claimed to weigh 230gr in size 700x25 while not having the Pro One TT and Corsa Speed fragility and short lifespans...Dang! I totally agree with your assessment on aesthetics.
How did you do it?!? I just picked up the new Pro One TLEs as well and mounted on my CL50s (same rim, cheaper hub parts). They were easy to get on the rim (no tire lever required), but I can't get them to seat, even with my compressor at 110 PSI! Air just blows out from beneath the bead forever. I tried dry and soapy water. I tried putting a tube in and leaving it for a couple hours to try to shape the tire. Nothing has worked yet. Looking for suggestions.refthimos wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:11 pmWell if that's the case (that the testing requires significant time), then that certainly explains things. I haven't heard any details regarding their testing protocol other than they "do something" and then note whether or not the tire gets blown off their test rim. For "major" tire releases, it would be nice to know that compatibility would be announced "approiximately X-Y weeks after release," where X-Y is the expected range of testing time needed.TobinHatesYou wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:46 pmENVE basically needs to test to see if the Schwalbe Pro One TLE beads stretch over time enough to blow off a hookless rim at rated and over rated pressures. It requires more than one tire as well.
I get that the testing takes time, I just have no idea what that is and right now not sure if we are closer to one day or one year to hearing from ENVE.
With that, I agree that it's more likely than not that ENVE will put the Pro One TLEs on the compatible list.
FWIW this morning I mounted the Pro One TLEs on CLX50s and it was crazy easy, both to get the tires on as well as getting them seated. I was thinking this was my new "go-to" tire until the BRR data was released.
Is your tlr tape depressed at the holes? If so, you need new tape, or try one more layer.