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Re: 2020 Schwalbe Pro One

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:19 pm
by spdntrxi
Imaking20 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:07 pm
Seems pointless for a TT tire considering the aerodynamics you'll be giving up with the wider profile.
I would not mind a 28 for the rear only.... agreed on the front.

Re: 2020 Schwalbe Pro One

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:19 pm
by Weenie

Re: 2020 Schwalbe Pro One

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:19 pm
by icantaffordcycling
scapewalker wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:14 pm
I wish the normal pro one would also have this amazing cotton like sidewall colour :D
Highly recommend you look at it in person before making that decision. Its an ugly yellow, not cotton like at all.

Re: 2020 Schwalbe Pro One

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:20 pm
by spdntrxi
icantaffordcycling wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:19 pm
scapewalker wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:14 pm
I wish the normal pro one would also have this amazing cotton like sidewall colour :D
Highly recommend you look at it in person before making that decision. Its an ugly yellow, not cotton like at all.
I agree... it's worse in the reals. Color me dissappointed.

Re: 2020 Schwalbe Pro One

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:34 pm
by Dan Gerous
spdntrxi wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:20 pm
icantaffordcycling wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:19 pm
scapewalker wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:14 pm
I wish the normal pro one would also have this amazing cotton like sidewall colour :D
Highly recommend you look at it in person before making that decision. Its an ugly yellow, not cotton like at all.
I agree... it's worse in the reals. Color me dissappointed.
Well, even in photos, it looks nothing like a true tan/cotton sidewall and has rubber texture, not a casing texture... looks quite cheap IMO.

Re: 2020 Schwalbe Pro One

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:58 pm
by spdntrxi
the best way I can describe it... is it looks like a 10 dollar imitation leather baseball glove.

Re: 2020 Schwalbe Pro One

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:58 am
by TobinHatesYou
Imaking20 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:07 pm
Seems pointless for a TT tire considering the aerodynamics you'll be giving up with the wider profile.

Maybe not in short TTs, but IM athletes doing 100mi are going wider because the extra comfort makes them faster over that distance.

Re: 2020 Schwalbe Pro One

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:52 am
by spdntrxi
TobinHatesYou wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:58 am
Imaking20 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:07 pm
Seems pointless for a TT tire considering the aerodynamics you'll be giving up with the wider profile.

Maybe not in short TTs, but IM athletes doing 100mi are going wider because the extra comfort makes them faster over that distance.
you know you took away my reason.. as I only do short tri's
but we do have shitty roads in norcal.. so I'm back

Re: 2020 Schwalbe Pro One

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:05 am
by icantaffordcycling
Aren't most of the people in our area rocking 25mm that blow up to 28/29 on wide rims?
I haven't seen anyone using 28mm tires for a tt, even on our shitty roads.

Re: 2020 Schwalbe Pro One

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:12 am
by spdntrxi
icantaffordcycling wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:05 am
Aren't most of the people in our area rocking 25mm that blow up to 28/29 on wide rims?
I haven't seen anyone using 28mm tires for a tt, even on our shitty roads.
only for the rear... :thumbup:

Re: 2020 Schwalbe Pro One

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:52 pm
by jkonst
refthimos wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:11 pm
TobinHatesYou wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:46 pm
ENVE basically needs to test to see if the Schwalbe Pro One TLE beads stretch over time enough to blow off a hookless rim at rated and over rated pressures. It requires more than one tire as well.
Well if that's the case (that the testing requires significant time), then that certainly explains things. I haven't heard any details regarding their testing protocol other than they "do something" and then note whether or not the tire gets blown off their test rim. For "major" tire releases, it would be nice to know that compatibility would be announced "approiximately X-Y weeks after release," where X-Y is the expected range of testing time needed.

I get that the testing takes time, I just have no idea what that is and right now not sure if we are closer to one day or one year to hearing from ENVE.

With that, I agree that it's more likely than not that ENVE will put the Pro One TLEs on the compatible list.

FWIW this morning I mounted the Pro One TLEs on CLX50s and it was crazy easy, both to get the tires on as well as getting them seated. I was thinking this was my new "go-to" tire until the BRR data was released.
Don't think I've seen an update in this thread... looks like ENVE is now listing the new Pro One as compatible with the SES 3.4 AR Disc:

Schwalbe Pro One HS 493 (2019) – 28mm
https://www.enve.com/en/products/ses-3-4-ar/

Re: 2020 Schwalbe Pro One

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:22 am
by pmprego
Imaking20 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:06 am
Wow, thinner than Corsa Speed seems... Unrideable?
What is your experience using the Corsa Speed? Are they really very prone to puncture?

Re: 2020 Schwalbe Pro One

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:47 pm
by kevinw
Happy to see that these are already down at a reasonable price...

https://www.vanillabikes.com/products/s ... 9649367134

Re: 2020 Schwalbe Pro One

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:47 am
by Imaking20
pmprego wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:22 am
Imaking20 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:06 am
Wow, thinner than Corsa Speed seems... Unrideable?
What is your experience using the Corsa Speed? Are they really very prone to puncture?
Yes. Also silly fast. I had some 25s glued up to Reynolds Aero 46 and set a bunch of Strava PRs that I never bested even on deeper wheels. But that experiment only lasted less than 2 weeks before the rear tire got about a 1 inch cut.

Re: 2020 Schwalbe Pro One

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:25 am
by pmprego
Imaking20 wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:47 am
pmprego wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:22 am
Imaking20 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:06 am
Wow, thinner than Corsa Speed seems... Unrideable?
What is your experience using the Corsa Speed? Are they really very prone to puncture?
Yes. Also silly fast. I had some 25s glued up to Reynolds Aero 46 and set a bunch of Strava PRs that I never bested even on deeper wheels. But that experiment only lasted less than 2 weeks before the rear tire got about a 1 inch cut.
So it's a race day tyre. Use it and remove it for the next time. Nonetheless, if I go down that path will still be the tubeless one.

Re: 2020 Schwalbe Pro One

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:25 am
by Weenie

Re: 2020 Schwalbe Pro One

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:03 pm
by TobinHatesYou
pmprego wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:25 am

So it's a race day tyre. Use it and remove it for the next time. Nonetheless, if I go down that path will still be the tubeless one.

I wouldn't even use it in a mass start race because the risk vs reward just doesn't add up in my favor. In a TT where every second counts is where the Corsa Speed or Pro One TT makes sense.