Advice on climbing frame

Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.
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Kayrehn
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by Kayrehn

After some research on a possible disc build, I think the Argon18 Gallium Pro disc is what I'll go for personally. It's lighter than most at 815g claimed, has adjustable head tube length without looking weird (which is important if I want to move my integrated Berk saddle-post over), and it's half the price of the Factor VAM. Managed to find it at €2.5k which I think is a deal for a top end frame with good reviews.

Lots more choices if it's rim brakes though, not sure which you are interested in.

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DaveS
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by DaveS

No one has mentioned the LOOK 785 Huez RS. Too ordinary? I've liked all of the LOOK frames that I've owned.

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wheelsONfire
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by wheelsONfire

Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race or Ultra.
They got different geometry. They're both stiffer frames than the older versions, new layups and reinforced on strategical places.
What i like here, is that they have developed, learned and been refined!

Yes, a marginal weight gain, but from what you gain, it's nothing you'd like to trade.
Very lively bikes which is very fun to ride. You won't see them in dozens, that's for sure.

I rode 2015 and 2016 Vial EVO D and now on the latest revision of EVO Race.
They simply look amazing in gloss with black logo.

Small boutique brands might attract, but if you go light weight, you should really consider a manufacturer which handles warranties well.
I am weight pending between 80-85Kg's (in the flesh) and i have no complaints of either stiffness or ride feel.
I have had two ti bikes and i can say, they aren't even near the EVO in ride feel or snappiness!
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Bikes:

Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2018.12.21)
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Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)


Ex bike; Vial EVO D

mrfish
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by mrfish

I have an unbuilt Parlee Z5 SLi size M in a box, which I could part with for the right price. It’s light, it has an excellent ride quality, looks good and requires no funky integrated parts so you can easily build it really light. Read the Pez review of his AC/DC bike.

Only downside is that the paint job is too subtle and nobody has heard of Parlee so people do not realize how much better your bike is than theirs. But that’s easily solved - Parlee now offer a sticker set in about 10 colors plus reflective so you can have a new bike for $50.

Lafolie
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by Lafolie

thanks so much guys

Boshk
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by Boshk

I know it isn't the lightest, far from it, but what are people's thoughts on F10 as a climbing/all rounder bike?

Lafolie
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by Lafolie

Decided on a Factor VAM - After seeing this video, thought the frame looked fantastic

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2334133113503600

StevenH72
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by StevenH72

Great choice!

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wheelsONfire
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by wheelsONfire

Boshk wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:53 am
I know it isn't the lightest, far from it, but what are people's thoughts on F10 as a climbing/all rounder bike?
I personally have no clue, but a German dealer selling mostly Pinarellos, says they're no climbing bikes!
Bikes:

Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2018.12.21)
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=156137
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)


Ex bike; Vial EVO D

g32ecs
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by g32ecs

Kayrehn wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:58 pm
After some research on a possible disc build, I think the Argon18 Gallium Pro disc is what I'll go for personally. It's lighter than most at 815g claimed, has adjustable head tube length without looking weird (which is important if I want to move my integrated Berk saddle-post over), and it's half the price of the Factor VAM. Managed to find it at €2.5k which I think is a deal for a top end frame with good reviews.

Lots more choices if it's rim brakes though, not sure which you are interested in.

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I think the Gallium is up for a re design. If you're someone who likes the newest stuff better hold off for another season

Not sure what year we're in with that frame, but at least 2 ish?

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wheelsONfire wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:02 am
Boshk wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:53 am
I know it isn't the lightest, far from it, but what are people's thoughts on F10 as a climbing/all rounder bike?
I personally have no clue, but a German dealer selling mostly Pinarellos, says they're no climbing bikes!
If only someone had won a Grand Tour on one.

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kgt
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by kgt

lol

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wheelsONfire
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by wheelsONfire

guyc wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:19 am
wheelsONfire wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:02 am
Boshk wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:53 am
I know it isn't the lightest, far from it, but what are people's thoughts on F10 as a climbing/all rounder bike?
I personally have no clue, but a German dealer selling mostly Pinarellos, says they're no climbing bikes!
If only someone had won a Grand Tour on one.
Hehe... kind of what i thought (Chris Froome as far as i know is kind of a climber)
Bikes:

Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2018.12.21)
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=156137
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)


Ex bike; Vial EVO D

Boshk
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by Boshk

Seen a few S-Works Tarmac and Emonda SLR builds that are light.
Haven't seen a Factor VAM or Colnago's new V3Rs yet.

Denavelo
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by Denavelo

wheelsONfire wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:58 pm
guyc wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:19 am
wheelsONfire wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:02 am
Boshk wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:53 am
I know it isn't the lightest, far from it, but what are people's thoughts on F10 as a climbing/all rounder bike?
I personally have no clue, but a German dealer selling mostly Pinarellos, says they're no climbing bikes!
If only someone had won a Grand Tour on one.
Hehe... kind of what i thought (Chris Froome as far as i know is kind of a climber)
Not only Froome, but everyone else on that team that was crushing the climbs...

What exactly makes a road bike a "Climbing" bike? I'm curious? Geometry? Weight? I know guys that ride Aero road bikes that crush climbs, versus traditional tube shaped bikes..
Speedvagen Road Machine "2011 Surprise me | Rob English "Mudfoot" 29er | Focus Izalco Max

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