recommend an alloy frameset

Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.
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Lewn777
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by Lewn777

Been having good fun on my cheap alloy bike back in my home country. Starting to think that some tech isn't for me, not because it's bad, just because I don't race other than a few fondos and don't need extra expense or complication.

What I'm looking for:
-Alloy frameset (carbon or alloy steerer)
-A reasonably well known brand name (that sponsors pros in grand tours)
-BSA or Italian threaded BB
-Shortish HT
-Rim brake
-No weird aero, unusual or propietary parts.

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wolfesquire
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by wolfesquire

specialized allez sprint.

BagelMaster
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by BagelMaster

Bowman Palace? English threads though

mag
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by mag

I was going to suggest the Bowman as well, however his 2nd requirement rules it out.
Or Standert Kressage (T47 BB)...
There are lots of smaller companies making interesting alloy frames, I wouldn't restrict my choices to the big companies only.

bremerradkurier
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by bremerradkurier

Kinesis Racelight seems to check all the boxes.

https://www.merlincycles.com/en-us/kine ... 05157.html

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LouisN
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by LouisN

Spooky Mulholland

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=149403

Louis :)

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by robertbb

BMC team machine ALR has a BSA Threaded Bottom Bracket.

Looks like it comes with the high grade Teammachine SLR01 fork too....

28mm tyre clearance.

Possible drawback are the dropped stays and that big join around the top tube and seat tube similar to the CAAD13...

https://www.bmc-switzerland.com/models/ ... 01822.html

morrisond
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by morrisond

I have an BMC ALR in size 60cm - it's been a great bike but need to make room in the Garage. It only has a few hundred KM's on it (mostly on the trainer) - looking to get rid of it. PM if interested.

Wookski
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by Wookski

LouisN wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:44 pm
Spooky Mulholland

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=149403

Louis :)
Perfect and the fact that they are too small to sponsor pros makes them even better- less chance of spotting a fat Mamil on one.

Legend by Bertoletti is also a good option for beautifully made alloy frames with smooth welds- similar look to their ti frames.

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LouisN
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by LouisN

I skipped the "sponsors pro teams..." requirement :P
IMO it ticks all other boxes, especially the "short head tube" one.
Canyon used to make the Ultimate in AL SLX version, but with sloped TT, and not especially short at the HT.

Maybe this, the alloy version of the Ridley Helium (long HT though):
https://www.ridley-bikes.com/product/helium-sla/

Stevens Bikes makes the Aspin:
https://www.stevensbikes.de/2019/index. ... lang=fr_FR

I wonder why the OP associates "well known brand" with "sponsors garnd tour teams"... :?
So many better alloy frames than the "bread and butter" marketing low budget copies of the high end "grand tour" bikes these guys are selling ( IMO) ...

Louis :)

flying
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by flying

I like my Fuji Roubaix Elite @ 1150 grams in a Med/54 but it has a PF30BB

Next up I would go with Ridley Helium SLA 1200 grams & BSA BB

https://www.ridley-bikes.com/product/helium-sla/

https://ridleybikes-ridley2.netdna-ssl. ... t_2017.pdf

You can buy direct from distributor if your in the USA

Frame & fork retails around $8-850

eric01
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by eric01

A used Klein quantum in good condition off of eBay?
AX Lightness Vial Evo, Carl Strong Titanium

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wheelsONfire
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https://www.bond.bike/#fully-custom

However, cost might be an issue?
Bikes:

Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2018.12.21)
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=156137
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)


Ex bike; Vial EVO D

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Lewn777
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bremerradkurier wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:05 pm
Kinesis Racelight seems to check all the boxes.

https://www.merlincycles.com/en-us/kine ... 05157.html
Fails my requirments on seapost size. I have no clue why any engineer would use a standard MTB size on a road bike. In my experience this makes the bike less comfortable on rough roads. Even if it didn't, I already own 5 standard size carbon posts.

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Lewn777
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by Lewn777

robertbb wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:45 pm
BMC team machine ALR has a BSA Threaded Bottom Bracket.

Looks like it comes with the high grade Teammachine SLR01 fork too....

28mm tyre clearance.

Possible drawback are the dropped stays and that big join around the top tube and seat tube similar to the CAAD13...

https://www.bmc-switzerland.com/models/ ... 01822.html
Fails on D-shaped probably proprietary seatpost design. Maybe not a dealbreaker. It’s cool to save a few grams and be more aero when you’re pushing the limits of a high end race machine, but for a 105 equipped everyday training bike it’s pretty much of a potential design fail. Personally I’d rather have the extra 10g and be 10 seconds slower of 40km and have an easier life. :lol:

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