New Specialized Tarmac 2020

Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.
AMGRoadster
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by AMGRoadster

aeroisnteverything wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:42 pm
2022 Venge release: "Disc brakes would have meant more materials on the fork, which means more weight. They were also detrimental to aero performance. As a result, we've decided to offer the Venge in a rim-brake only variant. and have designed our own incredibly aerodynamic brakes, placed behind the front fork and just above the rear chainstay. For this occasion, we have also developed our new Rapide RB CLX wheelset, which offeers a concealed metal braking surface at the rim to maximize braking efficiency. Specialized will always be about maximizing performance and these innovative solutions are a testament to this uncompromising design philosophy."
Dude - How much crack are you smoking? No one is going back to rim brakes. I have a 6kg bike. I love the weight when I lift it or climb a hill. Then I have to stop in the wet. Or I have to work the brakes on serious, technical descents. So many negatives with rim breaks. The only positive being the weight. Having 2 "hyper bikes" in the stable with rim brakes. I would never purchase anything but Disk in the future.

icantaffordcycling
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by icantaffordcycling

He already mentioned it was a tongue in cheek satire. Calm down buddy.

by Weenie


AMGRoadster
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by AMGRoadster

icantaffordcycling wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:36 am
He already mentioned it was a tongue in cheek satire. Calm down buddy.
Ha, you act like I have any kind of reading comprehension :)

Mikedb
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by Mikedb

Ok...so I've heard several issues regarding power meters such as S-Work power cranks.

I'm pretty much scratching those off the list but I'm curious as to if it's an issue with 4iiii.

I ask because I was thinking about getting a power meter from them, but if I'm going to have issues regardless of crank/chain ring setup, then that's a real bummer.

robtx
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by robtx

Just release it already, I want to pick colorways and order stuff...I'm tired of updating my spreadsheets with components. Oh, there better damned well be a straight seatpost available on release or I'm driving to california and kicking someone in the nuts.

robeambro
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by robeambro

My guess is that the new Rovals are mostly aimed at making the SL7 lighter than the SL6 in their marketing material.

Between Zipp going tubeless only and Specialized the other way, it's difficult to see where the market is going. But maybe Roval is mostly being used as a tool to sell more bikes.

SamD
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by SamD

The new Roval wheels seem to come just in time to negate the integrated cabling + BSA weight gains of the SL7. That way the SL7's weight can be fairly similar or lower than the SL6's...

Cemicar
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by Cemicar

(btw, why there are two ongoing Tarmac 2020 threads? If we have a degicated SL7 thread, aren't we only allowed here to talk about 2020 Tarmac Expert, Comp or Sports?)

Torbjorn
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by Torbjorn

Very good point. It's confusing.

okimy
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by okimy

Cemicar wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:00 am
(btw, why there are two ongoing Tarmac 2020 threads? If we have a degicated SL7 thread, aren't we only allowed here to talk about 2020 Tarmac Expert, Comp or Sports?)
I originally opened this thread because someone from my LBS told me there would be a new Tarmac soon, which turned out to just be new paintjobs. Technically the SL7 thread would probably be the right place for all the speculation, but I guess it's here now.

Cemicar
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by Cemicar

okimy wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:21 am
Cemicar wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:00 am
(btw, why there are two ongoing Tarmac 2020 threads? If we have a degicated SL7 thread, aren't we only allowed here to talk about 2020 Tarmac Expert, Comp or Sports?)
I originally opened this thread because someone from my LBS told me there would be a new Tarmac soon, which turned out to just be new paintjobs. Technically the SL7 thread would probably be the right place for all the speculation, but I guess it's here now.
If I were a mod I'd keep this thread simply because of the number of responses, but anyway mods should lock either this or the other one (viewtopic.php?f=3&t=159060).

jencvo
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by jencvo

Has anybody ridden Tarmac Comp/Sport back to back with Expert/Pro? I've had full hydro Di2 ready to put on a Tarmac frame so not looking for fully decked out version and I love the green Sport color. I'm curious what the differences are between the Fact 9r and 10r models? Clearly weight, seatpost shape and bottom bracket. Has anybody compared these thoroughly in what the actual difference would be in handling, ride quality, aerodynamics, stiffness?

bruno2000
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by bruno2000

Anybody knows some Euro webshops who are heavely dicounting tarmac sl6 frames?

AMGRoadster
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by AMGRoadster

FlatlandClimber wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:54 pm
scapewalker wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:44 pm
A bit far fetched but could they ditched tubeless to save a few grams just so they can get the sl7 lighter than the sl6 🤣
Would be the wrong place to save weight imo.

They might just want to differentiate themselves in the competitive wheel market though by offering a ligher yet aero alternative.
The only way they get it below 6.8kg, so lighter than the SL6 Disc, is by using the Alpinist. The Rapide could have still been tubeless ready.
Wait, are you being serious? Do you seriously think Specialised is not able to hit a target weight if that was a priority for them? Dp you really think that a small company has some voodoo magic that trumps a large company like specialised if they decided to mke a concerted effort?

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eric01
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by eric01

It is all about priority. A company with the resources like specialized absolutely could make a lighter bike but there would be a trade off somewhere else. Less aero maybe? Stiffness? Different manufacturers will prioritize different factors depending on how they think they can sell the most bikes. It’s up to us consumers to pick a bike that aligns with our personal priorities.
Specialized Tarmac Sworks SL6, Moots Compact, Carl Strong Titanium

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