New Specialized Tarmac 2020

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spartan
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by spartan

if you zoom in, you can see a threaded external bsa bb . yes yes yes
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ajcav86 wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 10:41 pm
It doesn't need to be faster than the venge, just as fast but 6.5kg....
Let me phrase that differently. Without being an aero expert, it looks faster than a current Tarmac, but not nearly as aero as a Venge. The Venge also had deeper wheels, a deeper seatpost, a deeper down tube, a flatter top tube.

I am not saying that aero is everything... but Specialized certainly is saying just that.
The selling point of the Roubaix 2020 was "lighter than a Venge, more Aero than a Tarmac". I can't really imagine them delivering a successor to the Tarmac AND the Venge that is: less Aero than a Venge, heavier than a Tarmac...

For 99% of people this bike will be perfectly fine, but it's still weird to update your bikes with something that is presumably slower. Aero is faster, pretty much always. So the new Tarmac might be slower than their formerly fastest bike.
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by ryanw

Out next month, apparently...

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by AJS914

They are going to play "the fastest Tarmac ever" schtick and the Venge with it's deeper wheels and slightly more aero frame will be their full aero sprinter bike. The fact that you could put deeper wheels on the new Tarmac and get really really close to the Venge doesn't mean squat.

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by eric01

spartan wrote:if you zoom in, you can see a threaded external bsa bb . yes yes yes
Are you sure? Am hoping it’s also threaded but it could also be a bb30 spacer to take up space on dura ace’s longer axle
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by icantaffordcycling

No its a BSA bottom bracket.

Pierre86
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by Pierre86

icantaffordcycling wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 2:14 am
No its a BSA bottom bracket.
Looks a lot like a thread together reducer, wheels/praxis etc
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by TobinHatesYou

Pierre86 wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 3:49 am
icantaffordcycling wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 2:14 am
No its a BSA bottom bracket.
Looks a lot like a thread together reducer, wheels/praxis etc

Specialized went BSA on the Roubaix, Diverge and entry level Tarmacs already. Why wouldn't you think it's BSA?

Not that I think BSA is the right answer. They should have made the leap to T47, especially with the Diverge.

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by bespoke

ryanw wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 11:22 pm
Out next month, apparently...
I hope you are right; I have been told late July on a number of occasions
Want it sooner !
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by robtx

When are framesets typically released? At release or trailing by a few months?

ichobi
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by ichobi

If you go by the Sl6 and Venge release, the frameset usually comes at the second batch, which tend to be near the end of the year.

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by Colsjako

I am very interested in one of the cheaper versions of the new tarmacs with at least di2 (i am afraid the integrated cockpit will be maintenance hell?). Hope they'll do good colours, as sometimes that's a big miss (2020 allez sprint complete bike version). This or the new giant tcr.. choices, choices.

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by ichobi

It is not an integrated cockpit. The stem and bar are separated piece, has always been since the Venge and you can use third party stuff for both parts.

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TobinHatesYou wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 4:00 am
Specialized went BSA on the Roubaix, Diverge and entry level Tarmacs already. Why wouldn't you think it's BSA?

Not that I think BSA is the right answer. They should have made the leap to T47, especially with the Diverge.
Wait, wouldn't BSA mean you can't use Specialized's own Sworks cranks on the new bike? A weird decision then, although understandable from the "simplify the BB range" standpoint.
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mrlobber wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 9:25 am
TobinHatesYou wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 4:00 am
Specialized went BSA on the Roubaix, Diverge and entry level Tarmacs already. Why wouldn't you think it's BSA?

Not that I think BSA is the right answer. They should have made the leap to T47, especially with the Diverge.
Wait, wouldn't BSA mean you can't use Specialized's own Sworks cranks on the new bike? A weird decision then, although understandable from the "simplify the BB range" standpoint.
What’s the spindle length on the S-Works cranks? BSA30 exists if the spindle is long enough. Also I thought the S-Works cranks were being discontinued...

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