New Specialized Tarmac 2020

Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.
TobinHatesYou
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Not in love with that black/blue pattern colorway.

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demoCRIT
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refthimos wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:22 am
Cables still external. That seems so 2018 these days.
feel same about "new tarmac 2020" :(
If i could ask spesh for 1 thing it would be to fix this.

Shrike
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Cdavies102 wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:07 am
Specialized Tarmac Expert gets Ultegra Di2 for 2020...

Doesn't seem to leave much to differentiate between Expert and Pro levels now? Just Roval C38 instead of CL50? :noidea:
Any chance of the Expert weighing less out of the box than the Pro?

sgtrobo
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Shrike wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:43 am
Cdavies102 wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:07 am
Specialized Tarmac Expert gets Ultegra Di2 for 2020...

Doesn't seem to leave much to differentiate between Expert and Pro levels now? Just Roval C38 instead of CL50? :noidea:
Any chance of the Expert weighing less out of the box than the Pro?
pretty sure the CL50s are lighter than the C38s aren't they?

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sgtrobo wrote:
Shrike wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:43 am
Cdavies102 wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:07 am
Specialized Tarmac Expert gets Ultegra Di2 for 2020...

Doesn't seem to leave much to differentiate between Expert and Pro levels now? Just Roval C38 instead of CL50? :noidea:
Any chance of the Expert weighing less out of the box than the Pro?
pretty sure the CL50s are lighter than the C38s aren't they?
the c38s are the bottom rung of the carbon wheel ladder from roval, if i am not mistaken.

clx
cl
c

is the hierarchy.


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AW84 wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:37 pm
If we're talking speed, we reached peak bike a long time ago, and a whole smattering of world records and near-records that still stand dating back to the 1980s back it up.
What records are those? Any that don't involve the use of positions and/or bike templates that were subsequently banned for being too aero?

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TobinHatesYou wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:14 am
Not in love with that black/blue pattern colorway.
I am.
Desperately so, in fact.
The 2020 SuperSix is definitely seeming like a non-thing now, even if they do the EF Team replica as a frame-only option in the US

When the heck is Specialized going to release their updates on the webpage?

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octave wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:59 pm
sgtrobo wrote:
Shrike wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:43 am
Cdavies102 wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:07 am
Specialized Tarmac Expert gets Ultegra Di2 for 2020...

Doesn't seem to leave much to differentiate between Expert and Pro levels now? Just Roval C38 instead of CL50? :noidea:
Any chance of the Expert weighing less out of the box than the Pro?
pretty sure the CL50s are lighter than the C38s aren't they?
the c38s are the bottom rung of the carbon wheel ladder from roval, if i am not mistaken.

clx
cl
c

is the hierarchy.


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Correct - C38 1560g, CL50 1515g.

A negligible amount though considering the weight of each spesh frame will probably vary by that same amount on some bikes

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[/quote]
Correct - C38 1560g, CL50 1515g.
A negligible amount though considering the weight of each spesh frame will probably vary by that same amount on some bikes
[/quote]

There's a substantial aero benefit to the CL50 vs. C38. The CL50 rim is exactly the same as the CLX50 that's used at world tour level. Difference is no ceramicspeed bearings and no DT aero bladed spokes.

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The C38 are still a great wheelset, I train and will also race on them when I can't be bothered running the 7.8s on my Allez.

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Nefarious86 wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:17 am
The C38 are still a great wheelset, I train and will also race on them when I can't be bothered running the 7.8s on my Allez.

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Excellent point, when compared to other wheels in the market in the ~$1500 price range (C38 is $1200) nothing has the value/performance ratio they deliver.

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DT350 hubs, off the shelf J bend spokes and 21mm internal... Not much more to want from a 40ish mm set of every day wheels.

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SuperDave wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:28 pm
Correct - C38 1560g, CL50 1515g.
A negligible amount though considering the weight of each spesh frame will probably vary by that same amount on some bikes
[/quote]

There's a substantial aero benefit to the CL50 vs. C38. The CL50 rim is exactly the same as the CLX50 that's used at world tour level. Difference is no ceramicspeed bearings and no DT aero bladed spokes.
[/quote]

Of course yes, I was purely listing weights in response to Shrike regarding a lighter Tarmac Expert vs Pro.

I have C38 on my SWorks SL6 and they’re great but will be looking for some CL50 Or CLX50 as funds allow

sgtrobo
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SuperDave wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:28 pm
Correct - C38 1560g, CL50 1515g.
A negligible amount though considering the weight of each spesh frame will probably vary by that same amount on some bikes
[/quote]

There's a substantial aero benefit to the CL50 vs. C38. The CL50 rim is exactly the same as the CLX50 that's used at world tour level. Difference is no ceramicspeed bearings and no DT aero bladed spokes.
[/quote]

DT Swiss 240 (CLX50) And DT Swiss 350 (CL50) too I believe(?)

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Which colorway is the expert?

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