New Specialized Tarmac 2020

[Stueys]

Whilst we can all see the logic in merging Venge and Tarmac into one bike I suspect that the sales from either are sufficient for it to make economic sense for Spesh not to do that, diluting sales would be a concern.

[C36]

I’ve just bought the new supersix evo and it is absolutely amazing and sooo fast. I think the tsrmac either current or new is going to have trouble beating it! I nearly went for a tarmac and am so glad I didn’t.


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Putting some rationality, If by fast you mean “aero”, the SSe3 is not really faster than current Tarmac. The few watts different have been measured with faster equipment on the SSE3 (aero bar). At the end they are very close but the Tarmac keeps an higher stiffness.

Now geometry, weight repartition... may make you feel one frame faster than the other.

The fact that new bikes are not really faster than a 3 years old tarmac makes me wonder to what extend new « non pure aero frames » may progress (right now there is a max of 15W with pure aero machines and a Tarmac / SSe3)

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[hawkinssmythe]

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[guyc]

Just a small Venge no?

[AnkitS]

That’s a 52cm venge. Expect the SL7 to look exactly like the black bike we saw last year.

[Hexsense]

I’ve just bought the new supersix evo and it is absolutely amazing and sooo fast. I think the tsrmac either current or new is going to have trouble beating it! I nearly went for a tarmac and am so glad I didn’t.


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Putting some rationality, If by fast you mean “aero”, the SSe3 is not really faster than current Tarmac. The few watts different have been measured with faster equipment on the SSE3 (aero bar). At the end they are very close but the Tarmac keeps an higher stiffness.

Now geometry, weight repartition... may make you feel one frame faster than the other.

The fact that new bikes are not really faster than a 3 years old tarmac makes me wonder to what extend new « non pure aero frames » may progress (right now there is a max of 15W with pure aero machines and a Tarmac / SSe3)

I agree with your comment about aero. But I want to add that SS Evo 3 certainly feel faster on rough road than my Allez Sprint. With the same wheels, tires and tire pressure, it just roll over rough surface faster with less wasted energy. Maybe, (apart from small weight difference) that is what keep the current Tarmac model alive when Venge outshine it's aero performance and overall speed on good road.

Also there are some size specific differences that contribute to feeling:
Only size 48-49: SS Evo size 48 has lower trail value than Tarmac size 49, so handling will feel more agile and responsive.
Only size 48-54: SS Evo size 48-54 consistently have about 20mm longer front center, while also have about 2mm shorter rear center. Bikes with rear wheel closer to the bb and front wheel pushed away will feel more responsive, it'll feel more like a mustang that is ready to wheelie as you apply the torque. I believe many people like this sensation.

[Noctiluxx]

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Better question would be, why is he not using a Shiv?

[hawkinssmythe]

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Better question would be, why is he not using a Shiv?

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[guyc]

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Better question would be, why is he not using a Shiv?

Also the distance and logistics involved in taking a separate fleet of TT bikes for a single stage in a smallish race that far from their base.

[AnkitS]

Better question would be, why is he not using a Shiv?

Nobody brings TT bikes to Vuelta a San Juan. I think it is an unwritten agreement between the teams or an actual rule. It lowers the cost of the race and makes logistics easier for teams early in the season.

[ichobi]

If Specialized follows that usual release cycle don't expect the first retail sl7 to land until October with limited availability. Not many brands to available for sale at launch. Pinarello comes to mind but they only have one model to sell anyway.

[DCcyclist]

I test rode both. The Cannondale just seemed that little bit more responsive. I also found the geometry better for me. I’ve had the supersix for 4 weeks now and haven’t been dissapointed, and am watching my pb’s falling one by one... and that is without even trying. The thing I’ve really noticed is that instant speed and that once its going its easy to maintain. It just seems to want to go faster and faster. I didn’t get that with the tarmac. Just felt heavier and had to push that little bit more. Still, both great bike though. Just very happy with my choice.


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"and that is without even trying." maybe you weren't trying hard enough before? Congrats tho, it's a very nice bike and seems like you love riding it (which i think is the most important factor). I especially dig the frame in EF colors.

[ds240]

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Better question would be, why is he not using a Shiv?

Also the distance and logistics involved in taking a separate fleet of TT bikes for a single stage in a smallish race that far from their base.

I was going to do this also with the clip on TT Venge bars. I don't really favour TT events so this is a good compromise when I can't justify a full on TT bike. Get my monies worth out the Venge also.

[dcorn]

Is this the new tarmac?

Is this just a joke comment? It literally says "Venge" right there on the seat stay.

[TobinHatesYou]

If Specialized follows that usual release cycle don't expect the first retail sl7 to land until October with limited availability. Not many brands to available for sale at launch. Pinarello comes to mind but they only have one model to sell anyway.

With the Olympics going on this year also pushing up the TdF, bikes like the SL7 Tarmac and new Emonda will likely be released earlier, possibly before the Giro.