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wow, didn't know the frame was that light, figured it would be 900+robertbb wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:16 pmHow about a part-by-part breakdown?
Frame 782g (incl. hangers) + bearings @ 37g
Fork 324g (incl. nut)
Bars 263g
Stem 112g
Post 152g (incl. clamp = 42g)
Saddle 210g
Right shifter 174g
Left shifter 177g
Front brake 165g
Rear brake 155g
Left Crank 262g
Right Crank 424g
Front Der. 76g
Rear Der. 186g
Chain 237g
Cassette 279g
Bora Ultra 35 Front 599g
Bora Ultra 35 Rear 781g
Tyres 432g (216g x 2)
Tubes 156g
= 5983g
Add the remainder for bar tape, cables, cages, etc. (didn't weigh those)
Major parts list: Canyon Ultimate CF SLX Rim in stealth black, size S. Campagnolo Chorus 2017. Ritchey WCS 4 axis aluminium stem. Canyon H17 aluminium bars, size 40. Ritchey WCS carbon 1-bolt post. Specialized Romin Evo Pro saddle. Bora Ultra 35 3d clinchers. MIchelin A1 aircomp tubes. GP4000S2 25mm tyres.
What I like about this bike is... everything. It's absolutely sublime to ride. It's light (duh) while being no slouch in the aero department, and all parts (including the frame build quality) are sensible... nothing specifically "weenie" about the bits I've chosen.
I'll do a build thread at some point soon and you'll get alllll the pics you like
It's a crazy light frame. But it feels very solid.Boshk wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:06 amwow, didn't know the frame was that light, figured it would be 900+
Can probably drop weight further by 200-300g if you have SR 11 speed or Red 11, but way more $$$$$ than Chorus.
My C60 is 8.1kg haha....and thats not even a ready-to-ride weight....no water in both bottles, no Cycliq camera.
Calnago wrote:I’ve explained this stance before. To get a disc brake bike as light as an equivalent rim brake bike, all else being equal, that weight reduction has got to come from the frame/fork. As such, the most structural part of the bike is simply not as strong as it would be otherwise. Consider that a very reasonable weight difference between a disc brake bike and an equivalent rim brake bike is ~400-500grams. So, given that an already lightweight frame may weigh under 1000grams, would you really want to be taking away 50% of the material from the most important part of the entire bike. I wouldn’t. Because of this, at any given weight, a rim brake bike will always be able to made stronger using exactly the same materials etc. So you see where I’m heading... safety and ride quality is really getting compromised here. Like someone implied.. a sub 300gram disc brake fork might be considered a little too light by some, myself included. You can ride it, I’ll pass thank you. Yes, at some point a bicycle can get just too light. So to see a disc bike this weight... have fun.spartacus wrote:CAAD8FRED wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:21 pmA lightweight disc brake bike comes out and now instead of complaining about the discs you complain about the weight being too low.Calnago wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:09 pm“It’s a bike made for the mountains — feather-light for climbing, and equipped with disc brakes for fast or harrowing descents.”
Hmmm, at that weight, with discs no less, I’ve no doubt descending at speed in the mountains on this would indeed be a “harrowing” experience.
Yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying so it’s nice to see that my logic was not lost on some. And yes, you are right in that some would argue that a 5.5kg rim brake bike is not too light or fragile. I would hope those same riders are relatively very light themselves. But in my experience, bikes that light would not work well for a lot of folks, myself certainly included. So for a flyweight, that may be ok, but bikes that light are often very harsh and almost brittle feeling as well, or else a complete noodle in the handling department.Discodan wrote: By your logic we should be comparing this 6kg disc bike with a 5.5kg rim bike in assessing how close to cutting edge it is, which is a statement I’d agree with. I think plenty of people on this forum would argue that a 5.5kg rim braked bike is hardly too light or fragile; 3.5kg maybe but not 5.5.
With a strong reputation to protect, and a good German engineering base, I really don’t think Canyon would be releasing anything to market if they were not very confident in its integrity. If they’ve achieved this through specifying very expensive materials then there’s no reason it can’t be as strong as a 900g frame made from cheaper carbon
Long debate I know...clincher vs tubs but I'm gonna ask anywayrobertbb wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:21 amIt's a crazy light frame. But it feels very solid.Boshk wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:06 amwow, didn't know the frame was that light, figured it would be 900+
Can probably drop weight further by 200-300g if you have SR 11 speed or Red 11, but way more $$$$$ than Chorus.
My C60 is 8.1kg haha....and thats not even a ready-to-ride weight....no water in both bottles, no Cycliq camera.
I save a 1-200 grams more switching from my Ultra 35 clinchers to the Ultra 35 tubulars. And that's weight where it actually counts - at the rim.
Nice build.RedbullFiXX wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:30 pmSub 6.8kg Disk bike
Without weight weenie parts
Not not just the new Evo
Canyon SLX are very light too
Can't take much credit for the build, as that's mostly how it comes from CanyonLeviathan wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:09 pmNice build.RedbullFiXX wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:30 pmSub 6.8kg Disk bike
Without weight weenie parts
Not not just the new Evo
Canyon SLX are very light too
As an aside how do you like the Hunt disc wheels? Ive a pair on order (and yes, I dont care that they are really "chinese/taiwanese" as opposed to British wheels...)
