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Light skewers without creaking ... possible at all?

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:17 pm
by StanK
I tried Tune DC 100/135 (37g) but over few months creaking on the back wheel is started. On every ride, so it became tiresome.
I getting rid of Tune, put Spada skewers (60g) who came with the wheels and that's better. In approx. 2 months just once asked for my attention. But I don't like the look (nowhere near nice as Tune) and it's very unergonomic on fingers/palm. Nothing unbearable, but I started to thinking about Carbon Ti skewers, titan version (39g), nice acid-green colour, but ...

Can I, at all, hope that those skewers will behave more like Spada's and not Tune? Or sub 50-60g is simply too little for enough clamping force, to forget on skewers, at least for month or so? Or will I have to try and see for myself? As I think it would end up 8) :D
I'm 72-75kg, rim brakes, 1250g alu wheelsets ... average guy, so not too much watts ... but enough hills to put extra pressure on back wheel.

Light skewers without creaking ... possible at all?

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:17 pm
by Weenie

Re: Light skewers without creaking ... possible at all?

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:30 pm
by wielergek
Try Wert skewers.
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Re: Light skewers without creaking ... possible at all?

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:35 pm
by nickf
I have always had great luck with KCNC Ti skewers. No noise ever. My extralite streeters have also been great 29g. I think there was only one time in the last year I had to give them a quick adjustment.

Re: Light skewers without creaking ... possible at all?

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:40 pm
by alanyu
I'm using taiwaness Carbon + Ti skewers, orignially around 42g, and I machined the axes shorter, finally at 40.X g. I'm light (~55kg) and my peak power is weak, only a little more than 800W, so it's all fine with me.

Carbon + Ti means Carbon lever + Ti axes, not that famous brand.

One of the club team guy around 75kg has used the Fourier's Carbon + Ti skewer, also from taiwan. That really looks nicer than mine. He said it was OK for him when he was 1100W peak, but now he has increased to over 1300W, and is using Zipp's Ti aero skewers.

Re: Light skewers without creaking ... possible at all?

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:03 pm
by JerryLook
I have two pairs of KCNC ti skewers (44g) and they don’t creak. I’ve used them on a carbon frames and alloy frames, with both carbon and alloy wheels.
I’m 85kg.

Re: Light skewers without creaking ... possible at all?

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:21 pm
by bm0p700f
My carbon ti qrs dont creak.

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Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:12 am
by dereksmalls
My Werts don't creak

Re: Light skewers without creaking ... possible at all?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:47 am
by otoman
JerryLook wrote:I have two pairs of KCNC ti skewers (44g) and they don’t creak. I’ve used them on a carbon frames and alloy frames, with both carbon and alloy wheels.
I’m 85kg.
Same. Another vote for KCNC. Especially in gold.

Re: Light skewers without creaking ... possible at all?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:18 am
by pdlpsher1
I don't use any QRs with external cams. They don't give the proper clamping forces. I have the Mavics with titanium shafts (non-butted). But I've also found these online but I don't own them (Specialized). I'd highly recommend either of these. Creaking only tells part of the story. On every pedal stroke the wheel wants to rotate counter-clockwise. You don't want your power wasted in that important interface.

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Re: Light skewers without creaking ... possible at all?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:34 am
by alcatraz
If you have carbon dropouts, and/or wheelhubs with endcaps pushed on, and/or you are strong or heavy....

...you're more likely to experience insufficient clamp force.

My crappy chinese frame and cheap wheels are silent at 600w with 27gr chinese skewers (pair) but my friend's trek bikes and dt hubs (bontrager) sometimes can't make do with even moderately light skewers without requiring a crazy high force on the skewers. They weigh more, rely on skewers to compress the hub together, and the dropouts don't hold the wheels as well perhaps.

Re: Light skewers without creaking ... possible at all?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:34 am
by alcatraz
If you have a certain shape carbon dropout, and/or wheelhubs with endcaps pushed on, and/or smooth surface endcaps, and/or you are strong or heavy....

...you're more likely to experience insufficient clamp force.

My crappy chinese frame and cheap wheels are silent at 600w with 27gr chinese skewers (pair) but my friend's trek bikes and dt hubs (bontrager) sometimes can't make do with even moderately light skewers without requiring a crazy high force on the skewers. They weigh more, rely on skewers to compress the hub together, and the dropouts don't hold the wheels as well perhaps.

Re: Light skewers without creaking ... possible at all?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:10 am
by crustyshane
I chased a creak in my bike for months, replacing bearings, bb, regreasing predals and finally tracked it to a creaking quick release. I resolved it by applying a light amount of grease between body and washer, and washer and cam if that makes sense. There is no grease on part that contacts frame. This stopped creaking on the contact points.

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Re: Light skewers without creaking ... possible at all?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:43 am
by NiFTY
Extralite streeters are great. Wert are good but huge handforce required. Kcnc if get older version with brass plate not plastic are excellent. I weight 71kg

Re: Light skewers without creaking ... possible at all?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:51 am
by Beaver
Some grease might help. That silenced my DC14. The Orbea Orca I ride now, only accepts the old AC14, so I got back to those. A bit heavier, but more clamping force.

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They are no longer produced though. :|

Re: Light skewers without creaking ... possible at all?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:51 am
by Weenie

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Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:53 am
by Hawkwood
NiFTY wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:43 am
Extralite streeters are great. Wert are good but huge handforce required. Kcnc if get older version with brass plate not plastic are excellent. I weight 71kg
Wert has closed down hasn't it?