Scott Addict Disc 2020

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Dan Gerous
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by Dan Gerous

Lugan wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:24 pm
Also noteworthy is one of the photos at the bottom of the web page that shows a prototype Schwalbe tire. Maybe a new Pro One?
Yes, new Schwalbe to be launch soonish featuring a new counpound and casing construction, expected to use the industry wide ETRTO Road Tubeless Standard that's been in the works for a while...
https://www.bikeradar.com/news/is-this- ... e-pro-one/

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Bordcla
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by Bordcla

Wondering why everyone is pushing for bikes to be updated every 3 years? These now cost the same as small cars; why is everyone anxious for them to be obsolete and to have to buy another ever more expensive one, for less than marginal benefits?

Is this a forum populated only by people who not only have spending money, but an actual endless supply of it???

Karvalo
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by Karvalo

Lugan wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:24 pm
Interesting that they spec the top-end model with 28c tires instead of 25c. I'd personally pick 28c, but didn't realize that size was mainstream enough to make it the default specification for a high-end climbing bike.
Scott have specced all models of the Foil disc including top end RC versions with 28mm tyres for at least 2 seasons now. Makes sense they'd roll it out with the new Addict too.

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by TobinHatesYou

Also the top spec Addict comes with 202 NSWs while the Foil comes with 303 NSWs. Both are 21mm internal, 29mm external. Measured 28mm tires should be a near perfect fit. Anyone’s guess if the new Pro Ones will run large like the outgoing tires.

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Dan Gerous
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by Dan Gerous

TobinHatesYou wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:04 pm
Also the top spec Addict comes with 202 NSWs while the Foil comes with 303 NSWs. Both are 21mm internal, 29mm external. Measured 28mm tires should be a near perfect fit. Anyone’s guess if the new Pro Ones will run large like the outgoing tires.
"Schwalbe also confirmed that the new casing should better reflect real-world sizing when mounted to a rim — by that, Schwalbe means that, with the new tyre, a 25mm should measure 25mm when mounted to an appropriate rim.

This is in reaction to a common issue where, when mounted to a modern wide rim, a 25mm tyre could measure wider than expected. This can cause clearance issues on certain frames. "

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by DartanianX

Bordcla wrote:Wondering why everyone is pushing for bikes to be updated every 3 years? These now cost the same as small cars; why is everyone anxious for them to be obsolete and to have to buy another ever more expensive one, for less than marginal benefits?

Is this a forum populated only by people who not only have spending money, but an actual endless supply of it???
I had this same conversation with someone.

Imagine if every time Audi released a new RS6 and I had to rush out to buy it because I couldn’t be seen in something that was now “old”. God, I’d be broke.


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TobinHatesYou
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by TobinHatesYou

They’re not expecting the same buyers every 3 years. That would be a horrible business model. They do want to keep lines fresh enough that people looking to upgrade even older bikes won’t delay because the current model is in the middle of a 5-6 year cycle.

Also competition promotes faster updates. Can’t have the current Tarmac be 5 years older than the current Addict these days. New iPhones come out every September, but hardly anyone upgrades yearly...even with encouragement in the form of the iPhone Ugrade Plan.

DarthKrutall
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by DarthKrutall

Ultimate 6.9kg RED eTap
Premium 7.12kg DA Di2
Pro 7.6kg DA Di2
RC10 7.81kg DA
RC15 7.65kg UT Di2
RC20 7.9kg Force eTap
RC30 7.95kg UT

Jebus, the weight of these things are terrible

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by mrlobber

By my quick math, if the quoted weights of frameset (including the bars and seatpost) on Bikeradar and elsewhere are accurate for, say, a 54cm model, you can build this one to around 6.2-6.3kg with Red Etap HRD 11 speed, Quarq powermeter and sub 1300 gram tubular wheels - more or less the same as the Tarmac, R5 and (most likely), the new Evo Disc.
Retired bikes: Cervelo S5 2015 / Felt AR FRD 2014 / Cannondale SS HM 2014 / Scott Addict SL 2014 / Scott Plasma Premium 2014 / Orbea Orca 2008 / Look 596 /

aeroisnteverything
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by aeroisnteverything

mrlobber wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:19 am
By my quick math, if the quoted weights of frameset (including the bars and seatpost) on Bikeradar and elsewhere are accurate for, say, a 54cm model, you can build this one to around 6.2-6.3kg with Red Etap HRD 11 speed, Quarq powermeter and sub 1300 gram tubular wheels - more or less the same as the Tarmac, R5 and (most likely), the new Evo Disc.
So why haven't they? The wheels on the ultimate version are not exactly boat anchors. :noidea:

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Westbank
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by Westbank

Anyone know if you can have the stem right against the headset - without spacers (aka "slam that stem") or you need a minimum of one spacer similar to the BMC Teammachine ?

RocketRacing
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by RocketRacing

Love the look of the integration. Too bad the colors are bland...

On weight, it seems hard to hit the uci limit with discs these days.

Ritxis
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by Ritxis

RocketRacing wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:54 am
Love the look of the integration. Too bad the colors are bland...

On weight, it seems hard to hit the uci limit with discs these days.
hard? it's a matter of investing money in components and wheels

this Defy Advanced SL, 6,66 kgs.
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Ritxis
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by Ritxis

the same partner has set up a Defy of the Sunweb team, sub 6,5 kgs
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by TobinHatesYou

For some reason the never-disc crowd is very skeptical of anyone claiming they own a <6.8kg disc bike. My Emonda weighs 6.4kg with the 202s, Fusion 5 Galactiks and a couple Bontrager XXX components. The only three 'exotic' parts IMO are the XXX saddle and a pair of Shift-Up thru-axles.

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