Which is the best bike beetwen Pinarello F12 disc and Colnago C64 disc?

[LouisN]

Colnago

Louis

Oh que oui! Colnago for ever!!!

I was kidding. I couldn’t care less...

Louis

[Lewn777]

Here you go, been doing some research.

Colnago is hand made in Italy from Taiwan or Chinese laid-up carbon fiber tubes and butting, and painted assembled and packaged in Italy.
Whereas the Pinarello is made in China and sent to Italy for paint, assembly and packaging, but costs 10% more as disk version frameset.

This makes the Colnago better value for money.

[Dan Gerous]

If value matters, they're both some of the worst on the market.

[corky]

If value matters, they're both some of the worst on the market.

But value is subjective.....

[Dan Gerous]

If value matters, they're both some of the worst on the market.

But value is subjective.....

I guess you're right, it depends what matters for each of us... but I think they're very bad values because the OP didn't mention brand history and heritage in what matters to him. And I only brought up value because Lewn777 did, if money is not a factor for someone, value might not matter that much, which I'm guessing is the case for most people who buy these bikes.

[Lewn777]

If value matters, they're both some of the worst on the market.

But value is subjective.....

I guess you're right, it depends what matters for each of us... but I think they're very bad values because the OP didn't mention brand history and heritage in what matters to him. And I only brought up value because Lewn777 did, if money is not a factor for someone, value might not matter that much, which I'm guessing is the case for most people who buy these bikes.

Actually you'd be surprised. One of my father's friends is extremely wealthy, a multi-millionaire, not billionaire, but multiple big houses, cars, leased helicopters etc. People like this demand value or percieved value. They don't care about the price, they'll happily pay $1000 for a bottle of wine because it's a very rare year and has been sitting in a French cellar for 50 years, but they care about paying for something and getting what it's worth. This is because they think they're extremely smart so paying $10 for a 50c banana would make them very angry, because that would mean they'd been made a fool of. The trick is then to convince them that a 50c banana is actually worth $10.