Is Ti the solution?

Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.
Hex
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by Hex

I am looking at Ti at this very moment as the be all end all bike. I'm looking at generic, though. It needs not be a racing machine, nor a relaxed walk in the park type of posture. It has to be comfortable and responsive.

From what I read, I've narrowed it down to either a px tempest or a sabbath September disc. Both are within my budget with the sabbath stretching it a bit far. Nevermind those three earlier mentioned. Too expensive.

One thing that keeps me from pulling the trigger right now, though, is whether the comfort of the bike also translates to the handlebar is the fork is still carbon fibre. One of my gripes for not going with another alloy frame is that after 2hrs on the saddle, my hands get tired and sore (in case you wonder, my saddle is level, my reach is comfortable, my tyres are running at low enough pressure too)

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charlieboy52000
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by charlieboy52000

Here my ti bikes
My favorite is the Litespeed it’s a race bike. The Lynskey is my spare. Not as racy as the Litespeed since it’s head tube is huge and it’s heavier.
Both 54s or M. I’m 5’11” and they fit perfect.

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rollinslow
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by rollinslow

Those two bikes look great. Awesome how you can literally reinvent them every few years with a new group, wheels etc.

addictR1
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by addictR1

charlieboy52000 wrote:Here my ti bikes
My favorite is the Litespeed it’s a race bike. The Lynskey is my spare. Not as racy as the Litespeed since it’s head tube is huge and it’s heavier.
Both 54s or M. I’m 5’11” and they fit perfect.

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Both of those are a beaut! How much does the helix frame weigh?


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Gunnar
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by Gunnar

If you have the money then I would go with a moots frame, everyone I have meet who bought one loves them to death. Overall I would say that moots and nevi seem to be the best ti builders, I have heard good things about lynskey too but not on the same level as moots or nevi. Another bike I really love the looks of but havent heard much about is the van nic astraeus, probably one of the nicest looking ti frames out there IMO, I'd be interested to hear if anyone on here has ridden one or has heard much about the quality of them. They are just so damn beautiful!

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micky
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I wouldn't call Nevi "best" ti builder; good yes, down to earth, yes, simple, yes.
I personally have a Passoni and worked first hand on a few, and compared to Nevi it's really a posh brand.

Tychom
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by Tychom

I always find it strange the seeming lack of exposure Levacon has internationally as possibly the premier titanium frame builder in France.

Their name never comes up in these conversations whenever the likes of Moots are mentioned. but the frames are stunning.

Etienne
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by Etienne

Tychom wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 10:07 am
I always find it strange the seeming lack of exposure Levacon has internationally as possibly the premier titanium frame builder in France.

Their name never comes up in these conversations whenever the likes of Moots are mentioned. but the frames are stunning.
In my opinion, 3 reasons : market positioning (national at best, regional mostly), production volume & delivery delay (12 to 18 months), personality of the owner / builder :idea:

Very nice and high end frames for sure ...

MoPho
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by MoPho

Gunnar wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 8:19 pm
If you have the money then I would go with a moots frame, everyone I have meet who bought one loves them to death.
Well I've only got two rides on my Moots so far and I can already see why that would be the case 8)



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Gunnar
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by Gunnar

micky wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 8:21 am
I wouldn't call Nevi "best" ti builder; good yes, down to earth, yes, simple, yes.
I personally have a Passoni and worked first hand on a few, and compared to Nevi it's really a posh brand.
Never heard of them before but they look pretty damn nice, those are definitley some of the prettiest looking bikes ive seen. I was just throwing moots and nevi out there cause they seem to be super long lasting and reliable frames from good companies. I know nevi welds in a vaccum chamber but after checking out passoni's webpage it looks like they do too.

kgibbo1868
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by kgibbo1868

One thing to keep in mind is Ti is just a material. By itself it does not make a good frame. Geometry, straight gauge or butted tubing, quality of construction, and finish are all huge considerations. Then consider all of the components that will combine to get the finished product. Find a builder you like, ask heaps of questions, and go for it! Life is to short to ignore you dreams.


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WinterRider
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Gunnar wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 8:19 pm
If you have the money then I would go with a moots frame, everyone I have meet who bought one loves them to death. Overall I would say that moots and nevi seem to be the best ti builders, I have heard good things about lynskey too but not on the same level as moots or nevi. Another bike I really love the looks of but havent heard much about is the van nic astraeus, probably one of the nicest looking ti frames out there IMO, I'd be interested to hear if anyone on here has ridden one or has heard much about the quality of them. They are just so damn beautiful!

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2699 Euro's/60cm frame w a 'Bottom Bracket---->86.5 mm Press-Fit Bottom Bracket'

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Litespeed 2000 Appalachian 61 cm
Litespeed 1998 Blue Ridge 61cm

Fitness rider.. 2 yrs from seven decades age.

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brusselsprouts
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by brusselsprouts

MoPho wrote:
Gunnar wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 8:19 pm
If you have the money then I would go with a moots frame, everyone I have meet who bought one loves them to death.
Well I've only got two rides on my Moots so far and I can already see why that would be the case 8)



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pdlpsher1
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by pdlpsher1

I live in Colorado and every Ti bike I see here is a Moots. In fact I'm willing to bet there's a higher ratio of Ti bikes here vs. carbon beause of Moots. I don't own a Moots because I want to be different and not ride the same bikes everyone here is riding :D

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toshi
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by toshi

I've admired many a Moots but the extremely sloping tt puts me off. Call me shallow, but I think at these $ amounts all the details count, even the subjective ones.

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