Stiffest ~700gr frame that isn't priced top third

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alcatraz
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by alcatraz

Hi ww

Fuji sl 1.1
Cannondale supersix himod (2015 or newer, havent decided)

What else is ~700gr w/o fork or ~1000gr with fork and provides good stiffness?

I don't like the emonda that much because of certain aspects like the seatmast design and inability to run 30mm cranks.

The fuji and supersix get points for being bb30 crank compatible (i have several light bb30 cranks and pwm I wouldn't mind using).

Thanks for reading and commenting...

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bruno2000
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by bruno2000

the previous style Focus Izalco Max. You might still find some at an interesting price.

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Beaver
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by Beaver

Ridley Helium SLX - closer to 800g frame but also BB30.

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Kayrehn
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by Kayrehn

My Fuji size 54 is 770g. Very stiff, a bit too much for me with the integrated saddle/post. Agree with the BB30 weight savings




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by wfcarrot

Try to find a Supersix EVO black inc, if you wanna go as light as possible.
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bruno2000 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 10:39 am
the previous style Focus Izalco Max. You might still find some at an interesting price.
the 2017 model i built up last fall continues to amaze
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Dan Gerous
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wfcarrot wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 3:31 pm
Try to find a Supersix EVO black inc, if you wanna go as light as possible.
It's only true for first generation Evos, they used lighter Nano carbon and minimal paint/clearcoat, when they introduced the current generation Evo for MY2016, they stopped using the Nano carbon for the Black Inc, the 2016 are the same frames as all Evo Hi-Mods.

Having owned the older super light Black Inc and now a newer Hi-Mod, and given the thread title includes the word 'stiffest', I would pick the new one even with a slight weight penalty. I had two complaints about the old ones, rear tire clearance and the stiffness around the BB was not bad but it wasn't great either. Both aspects were significantly improved and it's a wonderful frameset! Prices might go down soon too for the current one as the 3rd generation Evo will be launched this summer.

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by silvalis

bh ultralight?
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bruno2000 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 10:39 am
the previous style Focus Izalco Max. You might still find some at an interesting price.
I agree on this one. My frame and fork were 1003g painted in size 52 and I picked the whole bike up used for 1k CHF.
Maybe you're lucky and find a new frameset, which will be cheap as well.

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by alcatraz

Good idea! I like the pf30 and the geometry. I like the slacker head tube angle and seat tube angle at smaller frame sizes.

Does anyone know if the izalco max uses 27.2mm seatposts or something else?

If I ever were to strip the paint it would be a quite light frame.

How common are warranty claims for the izalco max? I'll be buying 2nd hand and I'm assessing the risk.

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alcatraz wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 7:10 am
Good idea! I like the pf30 and the geometry. I like the slacker head tube angle and seat tube angle at smaller frame sizes.

Does anyone know if the izalco max uses 27.2mm seatposts or something else?

If I ever were to strip the paint it would be a quite light frame.

How common are warranty claims for the izalco max? I'll be buying 2nd hand and I'm assessing the risk.
Yes it uses 27.2mm. I have many friends with an Izalco Max an no one has ever had a problem with the frame or fork.

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by arty118

I was going to say Canyon Ultimate but it's bb86 ...

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by cmunozh

silvalis wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 5:39 am
bh ultralight?
That would be my option as well
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Another vote for the Izalco Max. I've had mine since August and enjoy riding it a lot. Aesthetically it's not the best looking thing I've put together but that's more to do with my affinity for aero frames vs more traditional round tube types.

In the US, piermontbikes on eBay has them for $900 new with warranty

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by merlinxlm

Lapierre Xelius SL Ultimate fdj, XS frame. 887gr
Xelius SL Ultimate fork, with cut down steer tube. 292gr

Very stiff frame, ideal for hill climbing. A bit uncomfortable on riders longer than 100 miles. But not to bad.

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