What happened to BMC Impec?

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wheelsONfire
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by wheelsONfire

This is an old article, but nevertheless, i wonder why BMC stopped manufacturing their own carbon?
Or for that matter, why did Impec frames meet an early retirement?

https://www.pezcyclingnews.com/features ... c-factory/
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by NiFTY

My guess. Toray + asian mass manufacturer equals better margins. The impec for all its inhouse control was heavier and in no measurable way superior(other than looks) to an asian slr01.
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reminds me of how serotta got in trouble. they did too much themselves even when the gains were marginal and often added to the companies cost structure. my guess is they realized they were better off financially outsourcing and sticking to core competencies.
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by ChiZ01

gluing carbon is low skill but labor and time intensive, the minimal wage in Swiss is probably too high for this kind of work

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The main concept behind the BMC plant was to “automate” the process via robotics and stuff like that. So I don’t think the labor intensive thing really applies here. If I recall, robotic automation of the process proved to be more difficult than anticipated and the business model didn’t really pan out.
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by g32ecs

Simple: it's stupid expensive for a bike in it's time. RA Cycles are still asking $4200 for the frames and it's 2019.

Cadel won TDF and Gilbert won the Worlds aboard the SLR. It's a hard sell.

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by brownish

Impec was a big idea but just did not work out for BMC for many reasons

https://cyclingiq.com/2015/12/12/road-t ... e-for-bmc/

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by Ringo

I would love to have one though..!

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This is interesting read of carbon composite.
http://www.formula1-dictionary.net/Big/ ... Racing.pdf

I've also heard own plants/ factories risk to cost too much aswell as lag compared to giant factories development.
F1 tech (huge money), helps push the development. Some brands use composites developed (and design studies) for F1 and aerospace materials.
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I have a 57 impec for sale if anyone is keen ;) Image

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Calnago wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:14 am
The main concept behind the BMC plant was to “automate” the process via robotics and stuff like that. So I don’t think the labor intensive thing really applies here. If I recall, robotic automation of the process proved to be more difficult than anticipated and the business model didn’t really pan out.
that's my point, gluing carbon frame requires cheap and low skilled labor

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by Ettore

A monocoque performs better in all areas. That's the long story short.

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by PrinceEdward

brownish wrote:Impec was a big idea but just did not work out for BMC for many reasons

https://cyclingiq.com/2015/12/12/road-t ... e-for-bmc/
Very interesting, it seemed cadel doesn't really appreciate this Swiss precious bike.

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by Philbar72

Steve Cummings was given one at BMC, he didn't like it compared to the SLR01. his biggest win was when he was on his SLR01 for them ( vuelta stage in 2012?)...

the impec looks lovely. reckon for most folk it'd be a great bike. but, its a heavy frame, is probably about as aero as a barn door as well.

one for a sunny day and not for the training ride maybe...

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