Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

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Karvalo
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hambini wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 5:36 pm
A tolerance range of almost 0.1mm is ridiculous.
But your chart shows way less than that, so where did you get your chart numbers from?

Then, if your chart doesn't represent the true range of tolerance for any manufacturer, what's the point of it?

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Karvalo wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 9:05 pm
hambini wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 5:36 pm
A tolerance range of almost 0.1mm is ridiculous.
But your chart shows way less than that, so where did you get your chart numbers from?

Then, if your chart doesn't represent the true range of tolerance for any manufacturer, what's the point of it?
The bikes I measured were generally 2017 and older. The newer ones appear to have a much wider range in the bottom bracket area.

I am guessing they have found a cheaper factory to make their frames.
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Seatstays appear to be bent toward the outside, like Pinarellos fork for better aero no? But fork appears relatively classic (SS evo2 remains in the top tier in terms of stiffness).


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C36 wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2019 8:14 pm
Seatstays appear to be bent toward the outside, like Pinarellos fork for better aero no? But fork appears relatively classic (SS evo2 remains in the top tier in terms of stiffness).
The fork also bows outward, more subtly than Pinarellos though. Focus have done this many years ago, the SystemSix too, Bianchi...

The Evo 2's fork is a great piece of engineering, stiff but not harsh and one of the lightest fork out there while not being all that bad against the wind, it's only little nagging detail is that the bottom headset bearing is exposed to road spray so it needs more frequent cleaning than most headsets.

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Teoviz wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:10 am
Here it is
Looks a little boring, IMO; but, it’s totally fine if it’s a good bike! I’m surprised by it saying PF30a for the bottom bracket, and I’m also disappointed it’s not Spiderrings for the Ultegra model. All in all, I think it’s a fine bike and could use a better paint job and some kit tweaks, but if it rides as well or better than the past gen, I’m happy.

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Cannondale paint continues to be unfortunate.

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There was something classic in the shape of a supersix that made it stand out from the rest. They could keep the classic shape and update it with integrated seatpost clamp, hidden cables, bar-stem combo, etc. They prefer to lose its identity in order to make it look more 'contemporary'. Bad for supersix IMHO.

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Teoviz wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:10 am
Here it is
So disappointing.
From the looks of it, nothing new in this bike we've not seen before.
Maybe the disc version is going to have an integrated front end, but that's it.
Of course, they probably are going to claim it rides spectacularly and yada yada yada, but so far can't see any perceivable reason to choose it over Tarmac, R5 or, if you've got more cash to burn, BMC Teammachine, which in disc version looks absolutely badass.

If you're not into disc, the current Evo is already as good as it gets.
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142x12 speed-release thru-axle on a rim brake frame?

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If it is lighter than Tarmac, it has a selling point. Otherwise, it's down to fit and taste(NO!).
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kgt wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:26 am
There was something classic in the shape of a supersix that made it stand out from the rest. They could keep the classic shape and update it with integrated seatpost clamp, hidden cables, bar-stem combo, etc. They prefer to lose its identity in order to make it look more 'contemporary'. Bad for supersix IMHO.

It's a lightweight race bike now being optimized for aerodynamics. It's going to look derivative of nearly everything else (Tarmac, Teammachine, new Izalco Max, etc.) The SuperSix Evo's sales have also dropped like a rock since MY2017...to keep its existing silhouette likely would have spelled doom for Cannondale dealers trying to keep up with their Specialized counterparts down the street.

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We are saying the same thing. That only marketing directs the decisions of some companies and not design identity or beauty or... The fact that Cannondale cannot set their agenda but have to follow what Specialized or others did two years ago is bad for Cannondale.

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kgt wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:02 am
We are saying the same thing. That only marketing directs the decisions of some companies and not design identity or beauty or... The fact that Cannondale cannot set their agenda but have to follow what Specialized or others did two years ago is bad for Cannondale.

Is it marketing or competition? Why should the EF Pro Cycling guys have to go slower up the mountain than Specialized riders in the name or "classic" lines? These are competition/race bikes...they are built for a purpose. You can get your classic bike from someone else...you can even get it in steel with fancy lugs.

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