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Re: Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:30 am
by Kjetil
Nothing new with the head tube angle iirc.

Re: Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:14 pm
by refthimos
Well at least we only need to wait 4 more days to learn more about the EVO3. Unless there is a leak beforehand of course...

Re: Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:14 pm
by Weenie

Re: Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:56 pm
by octave
refthimos wrote:Well at least we only need to wait 4 more days to learn move about the EVO3. Unless there is a leak beforehand of course...
now that wilier just released their 780 gram Zero SLR frame i am even more interested to see what cannondale has managed.


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Re: Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:20 am
by bilwit
Weird that Cannondale would compare with the BMC Roadmachine and not the direct parallel Teammachine.

Re: Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:14 am
by sethjs
TobinHatesYou wrote:
mr2scott wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:42 am
The Emonda is indeed a sail.

Next years model is not going to change much. Maybe 2021?

MY2021 should be released in the summer of next year.

Dan Gerous wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:54 am
The Emonda also looks very weird, is it just me that thinks it looks like it hit a wall head on a few times? I don't know if it's the headtube shape or the old school curved fork but from the side, it looks like the headtube angle is over 80° or something. I wonder what the studying of the brand of philosophy of aesthetics science would say...

It's the H2 geo I think? H1 Emondas look less like a pooping dog and I wonder how much that extra ~3cm of stack height hurts in terms of aerodynamics.

Compare:
Hmm... Photo taken at Cognition?


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Re: Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:27 am
by TLN
Can anyone remind me when Cannondale released current EVO? 2016, or I'm missing something?

Re: Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:27 pm
by Dan Gerous
TLN wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:27 am
Can anyone remind me when Cannondale released current EVO? 2016, or I'm missing something?
It was a MY2016 yes so announced in 2015.
bilwit wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:20 am
Weird that Cannondale would compare with the BMC Roadmachine and not the direct parallel Teammachine.
I wondered too, a typo in a non-final white paper document? Although the Teammachine is probably not that much more aero than the Roadmachine, probably just helped by a shorter headtube...

Re: Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:23 am
by bilwit
Dan Gerous wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:27 pm
bilwit wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:20 am
Weird that Cannondale would compare with the BMC Roadmachine and not the direct parallel Teammachine.
I wondered too, a typo in a non-final white paper document? Although the Teammachine is probably not that much more aero than the Roadmachine, probably just helped by a shorter headtube...
Funnily enough BMC just released an updated Roadmachine which is supposed to be a bit more aero than before. I actually wouldn't be surprised if the old one was more aero than the new Teammachine (hour glass HT vs huge round HT, squared off DT vs. completely oval DT, lower seat stays, more bladed fork, etc). Still though, they should know better and compare with its direct competitor.

Re: Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:37 am
by ichobi
octave wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:56 pm
refthimos wrote:Well at least we only need to wait 4 more days to learn move about the EVO3. Unless there is a leak beforehand of course...
now that wilier just released their 780 gram Zero SLR frame i am even more interested to see what cannondale has managed.


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We already know that from the leak. They weight the same as previous model. So more than the Wilier.

Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:38 am
by C36
ichobi wrote:
octave wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:56 pm
refthimos wrote:Well at least we only need to wait 4 more days to learn move about the EVO3. Unless there is a leak beforehand of course...
now that wilier just released their 780 gram Zero SLR frame i am even more interested to see what cannondale has managed.


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We already know that from the leak. They weight the same as previous model. So more than the Wilier.
To be taken by a pinch of salt... compare confirmed SSe weights with claimed weights. I would be extremely surprise the Willier is really sub 800g (or raw carbon, free of all jewellery and small size...)



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Re: Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:11 pm
by ichobi
And to that I agreed.

Re: Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:20 pm
by Spinnekop
Quick google search pops this up:

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As well as this:
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Re: Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:19 pm
by TomSte
Very nice. Could be my next bike.

Re: Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:32 pm
by murphyy12
Spinnekop wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:20 pm
Quick google search pops this up:

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As well as this:
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Nice find on the chart. If it’s real then does that mean the SL6 disc is like half a pound lighter? I would find that hard to believe. But I guess we’ll find out soon enough.

Edit: never mind I was including seatpost in my HM math. Just frame and fork the claimed HM 56 weight is 117g heavier than SL6 56 weight.

Re: Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:57 pm
by kgt
Addict 2020 and Wilier zero SLR are better in terms of cables integration, weight and looks IMHO.

Re: Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:57 pm
by Weenie