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Re: Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:30 pm
by Wenne
Wenne wrote:
Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:02 pm
Devotional wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:13 pm
Still waiting on my ship to get a 51 and a 54 in to try . I’m wondering what a 54 with a saddle height of 69.5cm from bb will look like . I’m 5ft 8 . The shop had a caad13 in 51 in . Guy told me I’d be a 54 but I’m not so sure
Frame 54 , 69,5cm from bb...
51 vs 54

Re: Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:30 pm
by Weenie

Re: Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:26 pm
by S6ED
Wenne wrote:
Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:30 pm
Wenne wrote:
Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:02 pm
Devotional wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:13 pm
Still waiting on my ship to get a 51 and a 54 in to try . I’m wondering what a 54 with a saddle height of 69.5cm from bb will look like . I’m 5ft 8 . The shop had a caad13 in 51 in . Guy told me I’d be a 54 but I’m not so sure
Frame 54 , 69,5cm from bb...
51 vs 54
I'm 177 (this should be 5ft 9 1/2) with 74-75cm BB-top-of-saddle and I'd go for a 54. So I believe you should go for a 51.

Here's BMC's chart with suggestions concerning a bike of similar geometry:

Re: Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:45 am
by Hexsense
Whoa, 51 already have noticeable top tube slope. How would 48 look then...
While i can get away with Systemsix size 51, for Supersix i need 48 to have low enough head tube. Why do small bike always have more top tube sloping...

Re: Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:57 am
by Wenne
old 50 - new 54

saddle height and handlebar everything set the same ...

Re: Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:03 am
by Wenne
Hexsense wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:45 am
Whoa, 51 already have noticeable top tube slope. How would 48 look then...
While i can get away with Systemsix size 51, for Supersix i need 48 to have low enough head tube. Why do small bike always have more top tube sloping...
51 does not look pretty, road bikes are not mountain bikes...

Re: Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:10 am
by Wenne
above is much nicer as below...

Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:56 am
by C36
Wenne wrote:above is much nicer as below...
To be honest, to me both look quite ugly...
On the upper one integration is terrible worse than in a normal frame, on the lover one you have a tower of very massive spacers...

Not saying there is a better option... knot stem is 300g and impose the bar (another 300g) and conventional stems require an horrible “spacer”...

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Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:03 pm
by C36
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Re: Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:15 pm
by S6ED
Wenne wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:57 am
old 50 - new 54

saddle height and handlebar everything set the same ...
What is your BB to top of saddle height?

Re: Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:26 pm
by Dan Gerous
If using a standard stem, I would skip the KNØT spacers, they're big and bulky and just look weird next to a much slimmer stem. I would either only use the top one that lets cables through against the frame then use normal small spacers over it if needed or even use a normal headset top cap like the EF guys are using... it's probably marginally more aero too as it cuts frontal surface area. But integrated stem or not, a tower of spacers never looks good on any bike with any stem or any bars, that's not specific to the KNØT cockpit IMO, although being smaller in diameter, standard spacers don't attract as much attention, a tower of them still makes any bike uglier. KNØT stem actually looks really nice if slammed or almost slammed.

Wenne, I'm curious why you went with a -12° stem with some spacers instead of a -6° stem with less spacers...

Re: Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:04 pm
by Wenne
S6ED wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:15 pm
Wenne wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:57 am
old 50 - new 54

saddle height and handlebar everything set the same ...
What is your BB to top of saddle height?
69,5 cm...

Re: Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:52 pm
by Wenne
C36 wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:56 am
Wenne wrote:above is much nicer as below...
To be honest, to me both look quite ugly...
On the upper one integration is terrible worse than in a normal frame, on the lover one you have a tower of very massive spacers...

Not saying there is a better option... knot stem is 300g and impose the bar (another 300g) and conventional stems require an horrible “spacer”...




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Re: Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:51 pm
by g32ecs
Hexsense wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:45 am
Whoa, 51 already have noticeable top tube slope. How would 48 look then...
While i can get away with Systemsix size 51, for Supersix i need 48 to have low enough head tube. Why do small bike always have more top tube sloping...
Look at Sergio Higuita's bike

Unfortunately I have to get used to sloping TTs unless I get custom. This is also the reason why I'm getting the Addict RC - Yates' bike doesn't look too bad and him and Adam rides an XXS

https://www.cyclingnews.com/features/to ... t-rc-disc/

The worst slopers are Giant bikes.

Re: Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:22 pm
by Dan Gerous
More slope gives you more seatpost extension, more comfort... Secondary bonus I found out when I spent two summers in the Pyrénées: more slope allows you to be lower when you get in a speed tuck sitting on the top tube on long descents, and it's more comfortable to do so and easier to get in and out of that position with more space under the saddle. That's not a deciding factor for many, I admit.

Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:00 pm
by C36
Wenne wrote:
C36 wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:56 am
Wenne wrote:above is much nicer as below...
To be honest, to me both look quite ugly...
On the upper one integration is terrible worse than in a normal frame, on the lover one you have a tower of very massive spacers...

Not saying there is a better option... knot stem is 300g and impose the bar (another 300g) and conventional stems require an horrible “spacer”...




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This is the “max” that remain a minimum aesthetically balanced but need to swallow 600g of cockpit.
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Are We Getting A New Cannondale Supersix?

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:00 pm
by Weenie