2019 Sram Force ETAP

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icantaffordcycling
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by icantaffordcycling

If that's force, ask your lbs to call Sram and get it fixed, they will send you RED rings, a coworker had a similar issue on a bike he was building and they replaced them. I believe they are aware of noisy force rings.

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Just wondering what people are riding that requires a 33-33 low gear?

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by DaveS

Nefarious86 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:42 pm
Just wondering what people are riding that requires a 33-33 low gear?

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Living in northern Colorado, I ride steep hills and mountain roads where the slopes can exceed 16%. I use an even lower 48/32 with an 11-34 Campy 12 speed cassette. If no one would buy this combination, they wouldn't produce it. Wait until you're well into your 60's. You may need gearing that low.

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Nefarious86 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:42 pm
Just wondering what people are riding that requires a 33-33 low gear?

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try riding up 20% dirt road on your 39-28

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by jlok

33-33 would be great when tackling steep climbs in multiday tour with frame pack and saddle bag, also when your endurance is put to test.
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I get it for pack loaded riding and gravel, but it seems to be becoming common on road builds too.

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Hapatron
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by Hapatron

ChiZ01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:48 pm
Hapatron wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:54 am
https://youtu.be/O4y4Kgfsk4Q

I tried recording the noise of my drivetrain. If anyone has a solution please let me know.
sounds like the chain is not properly lucubrated, try put on a new chain with its factory lube, the drivetrain should be dead silent.
It's well lubed. Currently using a thick lube from morgan blue -- it sounds the same with dry lube, wet lube, wax, "ceramic" lubes.

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by g32ecs

Hapatron wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:39 am
ChiZ01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:48 pm
Hapatron wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:54 am
https://youtu.be/O4y4Kgfsk4Q

I tried recording the noise of my drivetrain. If anyone has a solution please let me know.
sounds like the chain is not properly lucubrated, try put on a new chain with its factory lube, the drivetrain should be dead silent.
It's well lubed. Currently using a thick lube from morgan blue -- it sounds the same with dry lube, wet lube, wax, "ceramic" lubes.
So what's the solution here? Or are you going to file a claim with SRAM like the one above?

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by Hapatron

g32ecs wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:28 pm
Hapatron wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:39 am
ChiZ01 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:48 pm
Hapatron wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:54 am
https://youtu.be/O4y4Kgfsk4Q

I tried recording the noise of my drivetrain. If anyone has a solution please let me know.
sounds like the chain is not properly lucubrated, try put on a new chain with its factory lube, the drivetrain should be dead silent.
It's well lubed. Currently using a thick lube from morgan blue -- it sounds the same with dry lube, wet lube, wax, "ceramic" lubes.
So what's the solution here? Or are you going to file a claim with SRAM like the one above?
I'll have a chat with my LBS today -- he has a new cassette for me to try (another Force cassette).

Hapatron
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by Hapatron

Had my cassette changed at the LBS, but the noise is still the same.
Is this an issue only for Force, or are Red users also having super loud drivetrains?

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by jlok

No. My Red AXS is very quiet, esp when using the Red chain. I don't know why Force chain is a bit noisier than Red chain. I use paraffin wax.
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by rayooo

In my case, Red (2100 miles since new in July) is very quiet. Since viewing this thread I've been listening and comparing to my other primary road bike - Shimano Ultegra Mechanical. The Red is as quiet if not quieter in general.

Hapatron wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:27 am
Had my cassette changed at the LBS, but the noise is still the same.
Is this an issue only for Force, or are Red users also having super loud drivetrains?

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by MayhemSWE

My Red AXS driveline is definitely a lot louder than my previous Dura-Ace Di2 9070 and Red 22 groupsets.
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Hapatron
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by Hapatron

rayooo wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:46 am
In my case, Red (2100 miles since new in July) is very quiet. Since viewing this thread I've been listening and comparing to my other primary road bike - Shimano Ultegra Mechanical. The Red is as quiet if not quieter in general.

Hapatron wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:27 am
Had my cassette changed at the LBS, but the noise is still the same.
Is this an issue only for Force, or are Red users also having super loud drivetrains?
That's interesting. My cross/gravel/commuting-bike has mechanical ultegra R8000 and I'm more tempted to use that bike full-time simply because of how quiet and smooth it is compared to my road bike with Force AXS.

Hapatron
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by Hapatron

Small update.
My LBS swapped my cassette from Force to Red as I wasn't happy at all with the Force and now it's dead silent. So, it's the force cassette that's at fault.

One more thing:
When changing the cassette I also changed to a new chain so that they would wear togheter, but on the trainer I'm now experiencing heavy "rumble and vibration" when applying force to the pedals; higher watts = more vibration. When testing the bike out on the road it's silky smooth. Is this because of the new chain and "old" chain-set?
The noise can be heard here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNISmvPT5_M - note it's even more noticeable when on the bike and the vibration is quite heavy on the pedals.

Anyone have experience with this? The trainer is a Wahoo Kickr Core

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