Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.
Darceking
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by Darceking

IMHO, after getting my SRAM RED AXS, I would never go back to current line up of Shimano. I have Shimano DA Di2 on my other bike and that bike has not been touched in 6 months.

ksavostin
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by ksavostin

Darceking wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:18 pm
IMHO, after getting my SRAM RED AXS, I would never go back to current line up of Shimano. I have Shimano DA Di2 on my other bike and that bike has not been touched in 6 months.
What are sram benefits?

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grnrcr
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by grnrcr

Slower shifts and dropped chain = Sram benefits. I've had Di2 for years and recently got Red AXS. No way AXS is better than Di2. Cleaner install is the only thing it has over Di2.

spdntrxi
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by spdntrxi

grnrcr wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:12 am
Slower shifts and dropped chain = Sram benefits. I've had Di2 for years and recently got Red AXS. No way AXS is better than Di2. Cleaner install is the only thing it has over Di2.
it's called a feature :thumbup: I eventually got it dialed in ... but then sold the bike and the next one....went back to Shimano

grnrcr
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by grnrcr

It's maddening that Sram charges this kinda of money for shitty front shifting. I had Ultegra and Dura Ace Di2 for over 5 years with 0 ongoing adjustment and 0 dropped chains. 0. I've had Red AXS for less than two months. Constant fine tunging of the FD. Two dropped chains while soft pedaling. F that.

maxxevv
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by maxxevv

grnrcr wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:19 am
It's maddening that Sram charges this kinda of money for shitty front shifting. I had Ultegra and Dura Ace Di2 for over 5 years with 0 ongoing adjustment and 0 dropped chains. 0. I've had Red AXS for less than two months. Constant fine tunging of the FD. Two dropped chains while soft pedaling. F that.
Now you see why SRAM came up with the idea of the 1X drive train ? :lol:

Stueys
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by Stueys

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Ritxis
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by Ritxis

maxxevv wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 6:20 am
grnrcr wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:19 am
It's maddening that Sram charges this kinda of money for shitty front shifting. I had Ultegra and Dura Ace Di2 for over 5 years with 0 ongoing adjustment and 0 dropped chains. 0. I've had Red AXS for less than two months. Constant fine tunging of the FD. Two dropped chains while soft pedaling. F that.
Now you see why SRAM came up with the idea of the 1X drive train ? :lol:
It is legendary, "the proper functioning" :twisted: of the FD Sram.........................

Ritxis
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by Ritxis

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TobinHatesYou
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by TobinHatesYou

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icantaffordcycling
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by icantaffordcycling

Stueys wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:28 am
spartan wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:46 pm
10t is USELESS for road riding.
It starts to make a lot more sense with a smaller front chainring(s)

schlafen
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by schlafen

icantaffordcycling wrote:
Stueys wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:28 am
spartan wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:46 pm
10t is USELESS for road riding.
It starts to make a lot more sense with a smaller front chainring(s)
He's possibly talking about efficiency and drivetrain feel, a bigger cog is more efficient then a smaller cog for the same gear ratio.
I think bigger cogs/chainrings, for the same ratio, ride better as well
The weight saving is negligible for me anyway.

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icantaffordcycling
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by icantaffordcycling

What do you mean by "ride better." The drivetrain efficiency is negligible for me anyway.

willmac
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by willmac

I don't have axs but I do have a 10-42 on my gravel bike. 10 tooth on the road is maddening. You can feel the chain through the cranks. I would not want it on a high end carbon race bike

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spdntrxi
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by spdntrxi

willmac wrote:I don't have axs but I do have a 10-42 on my gravel bike. 10 tooth on the road is maddening. You can feel the chain through the cranks. I would not want it on a high end carbon race bike
I have a 9-46... and know what you mean

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