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Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:41 pm
by Alfus
ultimobici wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:22 pm
Alfus wrote:
bruno2000 wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:29 am
Expect the first protorypes in the Vuelta or giro.
Delivery for the more mortals like us will take at least another year.
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You must be pissing yourself laughing at the wild baseless assertions being made here.


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It's funny, but hey! it's only a forum! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:19 pm
by FactoryMatt
If shimano decides to reinteoduce di2 to MTB line...with the rise of dropper posts..where will they place the battery and will this inform the layout used for 9200 road? Ie will "semi wireless" or whatever be spurred on bybthe demands of mtb packaging?

Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:19 pm
by Weenie

Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:29 pm
by MayhemSWE
FactoryMatt wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:19 pm
If shimano decides to reinteoduce di2 to MTB line...with the rise of dropper posts..where will they place the battery and will this inform the layout used for 9200 road?
MTBs have for the most part had the Di2 battery in the steerer tube since forever. (Edit: Sorry, not the headtube!)

Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:31 pm
by FactoryMatt
MayhemSWE wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:29 pm
FactoryMatt wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:19 pm
If shimano decides to reinteoduce di2 to MTB line...with the rise of dropper posts..where will they place the battery and will this inform the layout used for 9200 road?
MTBs have for the most part had the Di2 battery in the headtube since forever.
The headtube?! Like by the steerer? I never seen this. Nvm i found. I had no idea. Been out of XC bikes.. How strange...

Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:49 pm
by bruno2000
Alfus wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:41 pm
ultimobici wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:22 pm
Alfus wrote:
bruno2000 wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:29 am
Expect the first protorypes in the Vuelta or giro.
Delivery for the more mortals like us will take at least another year.
Image
You must be pissing yourself laughing at the wild baseless assertions being made here.


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It's funny, but hey! it's only a forum! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Wait and see.

Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:54 pm
by TheRich
FactoryMatt wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:19 pm
If shimano decides to reinteoduce di2 to MTB line...with the rise of dropper posts..where will they place the battery and will this inform the layout used for 9200 road? Ie will "semi wireless" or whatever be spurred on bybthe demands of mtb packaging?
I see the current MTB Di2 as the end of the line for that experiement, it will exist mainly to support current Di2 users supplied with replacement parts.

Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:32 am
by bruno2000
Alfus wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:14 pm
bruno2000 wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:29 am
Expect the first protorypes in the Vuelta or giro.
Delivery for the more mortals like us will take at least another year.
Image
If you could have access to the Shimano NPC website...something is coming...

Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:31 pm
by FactoryMatt
I believe.

Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:17 pm
by Cubist
bruno2000 wrote:
Alfus wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:14 pm
bruno2000 wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:29 am
Expect the first protorypes in the Vuelta or giro.
Delivery for the more mortals like us will take at least another year.
Image
If you could have access to the Shimano NPC website...something is coming...
What do you mean by that?

Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:24 am
by bruno2000
Cubist wrote:
Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:17 pm
bruno2000 wrote:
Alfus wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:14 pm
bruno2000 wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:29 am
Expect the first protorypes in the Vuelta or giro.
Delivery for the more mortals like us will take at least another year.
Image
If you could have access to the Shimano NPC website...something is coming...
What do you mean by that?
Shimano has a special kind of website where all there technical files and drawings are posted as also all the product presentations.
Also the presenation of Shimano products my2021-2022 which they currently showing to all productmanagers.

Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:04 pm
by itsacarr
Just to poor a some gas on the flame while it dims down - sounds as if the wires have gotten smaller as well - for what wires that are left.

Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:09 pm
by ipenguinking
So how does this translate to timing if anyone knows? From the availability of tech drawings to the release of the new products?

Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:52 pm
by biwa
itsacarr wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:04 pm
Just to poor a some gas on the flame while it dims down - sounds as if the wires have gotten smaller as well - for what wires that are left.
Less wires in new Di2?! While probably nobody realistically expects a full wireless setup, we do hope for a simplified setup.

Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:25 am
by ultimobici
biwa wrote:
itsacarr wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:04 pm
Just to poor a some gas on the flame while it dims down - sounds as if the wires have gotten smaller as well - for what wires that are left.
Less wires in new Di2?! While probably nobody realistically expects a full wireless setup, we do hope for a simplified setup.
Simplified? It’s so simple now a child could wire it up.


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Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:02 pm
by Dan Gerous
It's easier and takes less time to wire and set a whole Di2 bike than properly adjusting just a eTAP front derailleur! :mrgreen:

Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:02 pm
by Weenie